precore is the greatest elliptical eva btw im gonna be getting these: http://store.perfectpushup.com/product.php?product_id=75&&site=pp
i actually liked the octane i bought better than the precor... I never tried the travel perfect pushups but i have the regular perfect pushup and love it
check out this clip of this guy using one on his hands...what a homo http://media.putfile.com/Eliptical-on-hands-1