How would Manny do against..........

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  1. Explosivo

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    Hatton?
    Cotto?
    Margarito?

    Floyd?
     
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    He loses to all of them except Hatton.
     
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    I agree.:fightme:
     
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    yep....i think he's too quick for Hatton (i think it is a good fight though) and being at 140, not giving away the size he does to the other opponents on the list
     
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    I agree, but i think he'd have a good shot against Cotto.
     
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    Perhaps if Cotto is badly affected by the Margarito beating, which is possible. If he's still the same, then he'd stop Manny.
     
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    Beats Hatton.
    pick-em with Cotto
    Loses 2 Margarito

    PBF would never fight him.
     
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    there is no way manny beats hatton, not one chance. those of you who have bought into this bullshit need to calm the fuck down. all the better actually it will look when hatton stops manny at 140.
     
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    He's fighting at 140 now ,so this thread doesn't matter.
     
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    This was an outstanding win for Manny but lets not forget what weight he fights at. He would not have won last night if Oscar was in his prime and it is unfar on Pac to compare him the the current welter weight champions.


    I think he could do a number on Hatton
     
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    He loses in good fights against Hatton and Cotto and badly to Mayweather and Margarito IMO.
     
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    Floyd embarasses him.
     
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    I think Manny might actually be better than ever at 135 or perhaps even 140. He has matured in last five years and now he seems to be able to deal with big punches. At 140 his edge in speed and footwork is so great that he is a trouble for anyone. At lower weight he gets caught much more.
     
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    Manny has too much speed, and throws from too many angles for Hatton's no defense ass to handle. I dont care how long that clown Floyd Sr. trains Hatton for, he'll never develop Ricky a defense. It'll be target practice for Manny, but unlike DLH, Ricky will at least fight back. But Hatton's chin wont be able to absorb nearly as much as Oscar did, so I say Manny TKO's Ricky within 6.
     
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    Hatton is far too rough and strong for Manny IMO. He's gonna make Pac's fight against Agapito Sanchez look like Zab-Witter. Hatton by late stoppage in a punishing, wonderful fight.
     
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    Pacquiao was winning the fight with Sanchez. That's why Sanchez low-blowed his way to a DQ loss.

    I don't think Hatton would have a clue as to how to deal with Pacquiao's style and speed. And I don't think Cotto could cacth Pacquiao the whole night.

    Margarito would probably stopo Pacquiao with one punch. PBF won't fight Pacquiao.
     
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    Pac was complaining and had a really rough night in there, Hatton would bring it x50. Cotto not catching Pac? How's that? Pac is very hittable, he can get away with getting hit with the Featherweights but Cotto would hurt the little man with every punch. Margarito would dwarf him and Floyd won't get credit from you after he dismantles him.
     
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    Pacman would beat the fuck out of Hatton and Floyd and Cotto. Marge is probably too big and strong and tough.

    Floyd couldn't handle someone as fast as Pacman, and as elusive as this version of pacman is. Pacman can fucking move when he wants to, when facing a bigger guy.

    Floyd was too fast for hatton, and escaped his bullrushes, so would pacman be. Pacquiao is even faster, and his straight left is like a homing missile. Hatton would get busted up.
     
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    WTF!? :dunno:

    You're SO jumping the gun here mex, Pac is great and cool as hell but don't let last night fool you. Cotto and Floyd would beat the hell out of Pacquiao. You think Manny had trouble with JMM's skills? Wait until he gets in there with Floyd. Cotto is as accurrate and powerful as it gets, he's gonna punish the little man badly.
     
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    Pacquiao beat Hatton...

    Pacquiao gets beat by Cotto/Margarito..too big/strong/active for him....

    Pacquiao vs. Mayweather..would love to see it...I say it's a pick'em...
     
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    Pacquiao beats Hatton.

    Cotto - A pick 'em.

    Margarito - Guy is too big, Margarito is a natural middleweight.

    Floyd - I really don't know.
     
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    The thing is Pac's accuracy imo not his speed. He is also very explosive withhis punches again more so than fast. Finally he emplys a great style. He looks a bit like a thai fighter and economizes on his movements and angling so that he moves like greased lightening on his fighting line. From this position he can swarm when he wants to and back off.

    Pac is a better defensive fighter than people think. Ugo made a great comment in this regard: Its true Pac does not get hit as much by the bigger guys and the truth is thats just smartness. I mean Pac obviousy knows that he can take a shot by JM better than a guy Oscar's size and acts accordingly.

    So we have a guy who is an accurate explosive puncher with good defensive skills. I agree with Alabama in that I have no idea how to guage how accomplished pac is against these guys.:dunno: The guy is chronically underestimated and who knows what De La Hoya was up too... I think Pacquio is competative against the elite's mentioned... Margarito is too big and Floyd's big advantage suprisingly is his strength. Cotto is technically accomplished and a great fighter but not more than JM so Pacquio would be a handeful for Cotto. Hatton I don't know as i have not seen his last fight.. prior to he looked shot and beat up.
     
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    With a long layoff for Floyd, I'd favor Pacquaio.

    Cotto would be too big for Pacquaio. He'd be facing someone in his prime, not shot.
     
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    Maybe.
    If I was Top Rank and Freddie, I would think about this fight long and hard.
    Hatton is a real strong bruiser and can hurt Manny, and vice versa.
    I would not have any idea how to analyze this fight as of yet, but it would be a pick 'em IMO, right now.
     
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    What about Pac vs Floyd in a fight of the top P4P'ers?
     
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    Would you pick Manny over Juan Diaz?
     
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    I think Oscar is way past his best, but not COMPLETELY shot. If he was, what's Floyd's excuse for only managing a SD over him?

    Last night's performance was very, very impressive.

    I think Pacman would beat the patient Cotto to the punch all night with his speed, accuracy and movement. Cotto is not reckless enough to tag pacman enough to stop him.

    Marge is just too fucking big.

    Pacman would batter Hatton.

    And Floyd? With the layoff, and facing a fighter significantly faster than him, I would pick Manny by decision.

    Floyd was utterly, utterly unimpressive against an equally flat footed oscar. He didn't even look that fast against Oscar.
     
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    That would be a helluva fight at 135, I know that much, I don't know if I'd venture a pick right now on it as I haven't analyzed it as of yet.

    I asked Juan and his manager about it several times, and they both indicated to me that Juan was too strong and had too much stamina for Manny, but I don't know how they feel about the fight now, but I do know that Diaz will take anyone on.


    Maybe Oscar will send Diaz in after him to try to gain a measure of revenge, particularly now as it looks like Marquez will face Morales.
     
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    De Floyd fight was more than a year ago in a different division. When fighters are as old and inactive as DLH they're doomed to get shot as fuck overnight. Add the fact that for some strange reason Oscar decided to go back to 147 after many years of not doing it and you get what you saw, a dead DLH. I'm not trying to take credit from Manny, he did what he had to and in impressive fashion.

    I think Floyd will come up to the challenge and fight Manny, let's see.
     
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    Pac cant beat Floyd. No way, no how, not gonna happen! THATS overrestimating Manny. Pac's only chance would be to take out Floyd within 3 rounds, and thats highly doubtful. It would take Floyd maybe 3-4 rounds to acclimated to Manny's style and speed, after that he'd start to make adjustments, and the lazer right hand leads would begin making thier mark on Manny in center ring. Floyd would also work the body, and rough Mnny up on the inside. Please dont confuse a shot Oscar to Floyd Mayweather. Manny has never faced someone quicker, and more athletic than himself, but in Floyd thats exactly what he'd facing. I think Floyd would take control around the 6th round, and never look back. Manny might last the distance, because Floyd would be rusty, and also because I dont think PBF is what he once was. But regardless... he'd still kick Manny's ass. I have zero doubt about it!
     

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