Let it begin: Mayweather wants to come out of retirement to fight Pacquiao!

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  1. Hanz

    Hanz Roberto Duran

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    Well if you ain't got the hook-up then don't be dissin'. :nono:
     
  2. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    link to article or video where he says so......????????



    Go find that...ASAP....:rolleyes: :lol:
     
  3. Double L

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    I see a huge conflict of interest here if a Hatton/Pacquiao fight is made, and Mayweather Sr. remains Hatton's trainer. Why would he want Hatton to win that fight? It would mean no Pacquiao/PBF fight.

    This whole thing is strange. Margarito's KO of Cotto was equally as impressive but inspired no such response from PBF. Go figure.

    Like so many fighters I hate, PBF is only interested in ones he's highly confident he can win. Apparently. when it comes to Margarito, that's not the case.
     
  4. Father of Muzse

    Father of Muzse Undisputed Champion

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    Do you know what "conflict of interest" means?

    Mayweather didn't train Oscar for the Pac fight

    Hatton is with Golden Boy, Pac is co-promoted by Golden Boy and Top Rank. If that's your "conflict of interest" then Oscar getting his ass whupped is the mother of all retarded conflicts of interest.

    What would Hatton stand to gain by losing to Manny?

    I swear, your posts get more off-balance, disturbing and down right more retarded everyday. You're shell shocked over Oscar's demise aren't you?

    As poorly as myself and the rest of Planet Roy reacted when Roy was stretched, you've gone FARTHER off the deep end than we did.
     
  5. Hanz

    Hanz Roberto Duran

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    I don't gotta find nuttin'
    Like I said, go ask Vitali. He'll tell you. The question was addressed to him 5-6 years back and he said he got his ass beat up.
     
  6. Roll With The Punches

    Roll With The Punches WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    i really don't think this would be a good fight...Pac has no chance...but can understand Floyd cashing in for an easy fight

    i'd be more interested in seeing Floyd against real challenges he left behind at 147
     
  7. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I'm not arguing Mayweather didn't took the path of lesser resistance. But casinos love having Hatton in Vegas because Brits come in and they spend.
     
  8. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Exactly. I'm not trying to take anything from Pac's very impressive victory over Oscar, but he's still just a little guy and is not a real welterweight. I'm not interested in seeing Floyd come back for this fight, but I have a strong feeling he will. I would much rather he came back and cleared up some unfinished business with the true 147 pounders.

    Margarito's victory over Cotto IMO is far more impressive than Pac's over Oscar who hasn't won a fight let alone a meaningful fight since the Mayorga fight and calling that win meaningful is a stretch.

    The bottom line is, neather Oscar or Pacman are the top dogs at 147 and Mayweather shouldn't even consider coming back for anything less than the top welterweights.
     
  9. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I just called Vitali. He said "That Hanzy guy is a liar and a spammer"

    Ask him, he said exactly that.
     
  10. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    At least Floyd doesn't look 4 divisions down to pick an opponent.
     
  11. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    If he comes back to fight Pac he is doing the exact same thing Oscar tried to do. :lol:
     
  12. Double L

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    i'm referring to the case if pacquiao faces hatton before taking on mayweather, who if the fight gets made, he intends on using his father as a trainer. that's a conflict of interest son. it would mean hatton's winning would not be in Sr.'s interest - that's a conflict of interest. :lol:

    you just wasted 20 minutes playing teacher and i couldn't have a clearer understanding if i tried of what a conflict of interest is.

    this is about the time when certain fans begin to get cranky because the guys they like have no sack.
     
  13. Double L

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    btw: my affinity for odh had long been dwindling. between his refusing to fight the likes of margarito, and his agreement to fight pacquiao, and his passion-less effort against pbf, there hasn't been much to like about him for a while.

    so while you might like to think of this as, "you got yours," i'm happy to disappoint.

    in fairness, it was castillo's ko loss to stinky hatton that broke my heart.
     
  14. royyjonesjrp4pno1

    royyjonesjrp4pno1 "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Floyd isn't a real 147lber himself.
     
  15. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I think we were given different dictionaries.
     
  16. Double L

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    yeah. he generally looks one division down. and i'm not even a fan of odh. so what? this is supposed to sting?

    ever since odh turned gbp he hasn't been a real fighter. what he should've done was give margarito or williams the pay-day they deserved, and then retire. instead he tried to engineer some ko of a lightweight and probably spent all his energy losing weight so the fight wouldn't seem like such a farce. boy did it back-fire.

    he might've even fared better against Tony than he did pac.
     
  17. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    He's far bigger than Pac that's for sure.
     
  18. Baron

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    Floyd is always the smaller man, no matter who he fights.
     
  19. whiskey

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    Correct. :lol:
     
  20. Double L

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    :lol::lol::lol:
     
  21. Streetfighter

    Streetfighter WBC Champion

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    Or maybe it has to do with all the people saying the pac fucked up his resume and the only way to get that back is beating pac. If the fight happens it should be at 140 not 147 and Mayweather will have no trouble making 140. If they were a couple years closer weight wise this fight would have happened by now but floyd moved up in weight earlier. I think a lot of people still doubt floyd but he has been p4p number one since Roy fell
     
  22. Streetfighter

    Streetfighter WBC Champion

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    Floyd is not a real 147er either. He is a 140 pound fighter that was looking for bigger paydays and belts.
     
  23. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    He's fought at welterweight or higher 5 times. He only had 3 fights at 140. He's a damn welterweight. I guess Oscar is a JR WW too. They both started their careers at the same damn weight.
     
  24. Double L

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    this is exactly why PBF retired. it's because he IS indeed a welterweight. and there's welterweights he can't be sure he can beat. so he retired.

    it's similar to SRL's careful opponent selection in which he conventiently retired or looked the other way when it came to guys like Curry, McCallum and Hagler (when Hagler wasn't over the hill).
     
  25. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

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    if you are complaining about ray leonards opposition then mayweather jr will never be able to satisfy you no matter who he fights
     
  26. Father of Muzse

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    Hearns and Duran managed to not fight either of those guys as well.
     
  27. Pascals Wager

    Pascals Wager Undisputed Champion

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    This is true actually.
    If he un-retires to fight Manny, He'll be sure to retire quick-smart again B4 any of those WW's notice that he's back
     
  28. Double L

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    right. which is why i feel sorry for them. they were too dangerous for their own good.

    when asked if i felt sorry for ODH, i said, "hell no." it's guys like McCallum and Caballero that I feel sorry for. Guys who weren't or aren't that famous but could probably have defeated many of the so called superstars of today and yesterday.

    as far as SRL's fight with Hagler, I view it as very similar to PBF's fight with ODH. The accolades they got for winning those fight are way over-blown. And ironically, there's debate as to whether they even won those fights.

    I definitely thought Hagler beat SRL. And PBF/ODH was about as close as a fight can be without it being a draw.

    Margarito is PBF's McCallum.

    Julian Jackson is Margarito's Cotto. And here's hoping that Williams turns out to be Margarito's Kalambay.
     
  29. Double L

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    i'm not complaining about SRL's competition but it is overrated. And his series of retirements did seem to be strategic in nature as far as avoiding competition that posed a high risk with little reward.

    plus, we all know he lost the rematch to Hearns. And many will tell you he lost to a geriatric Hagler.

    There's two elite fighters he faced in their primes - Duran and Hearns. Duran he lost to. And Hearns he pulled victory from the jaws of defeat.

    The guy is way overrated in my opinion and like ODH and PBF, both of late, he basically ignored his division's top competition.

    He knew he had no chance against Nunn so he drops 20 pounds and gets his azz kicked by Norris. :bears: He thought Norris's lack of chin would save him the day, but much like ODH's opportunistic choice of Pacquiao, SRL's choice to fight Norris back-fired big-time.
     
  30. Streetfighter

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    Didn't he weigh like 143 the night of his fights at welter. Floyd never cut weigh like these other guys, that is why he was really a 140 pounder and almost all his fights at welter were against 140 pounders that also moved up. I just checked he weighed 145 for all but one fight at welter. He should have been cutting down to 140 but wanted belts and more money. Hellm, he even only weighed 145 for the Hatton fight. There is no way he was a welterweight, when you look at the other guys coming in close to 160 fight night.
     
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