So why did Floyd Mayweather Jr retire?

He's already raped his fans of enough money and fooled his nuthuggers into believing he's the best ever. What else is there? He's never been interested in proving he was really the best, only the best at securing the easiest fights for the most money.

 

He ducked Margarito/Cotto/Williams....you can make all the excuses you want...but he never wanted to be in the same ring vs. any of those guys...Mayweather might come back seen that he has the small Pacquiao to fight...and not real welterweight like the ones already mention...even though a fight vs. Margarito/Cotto would make hm as much money as a fight vs. Pacquiao.....

 

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I think that Floyd realized that if he couldn't dominate an over the hill DLH......he was in too deep of waters as far as weight classes go.

And his pride wouldn't allow him to drop back down to his best division, Jr. Welterweight.

That's why his only fight after Oscar was against a Jr. Welterweight.

 

what Cotto vs. Mayweather wouldn't do over 1 million ppv buys?? back when Cotto was undefeated and the one of Mayweather biggest threat??...right now the fight might be a bit harder to sell considering that Mayweather has lose all the momentum he had from the De La Hoya fight...and what happen to Cotto in the Margarito fight.......then that would lead to Margarito vs. Mayweather...and in that fight Mayweather can take a big slice of the pie...against Pacquiao he will have to split 50/50...

 

It would have MAYBE done 600K buys, MAYBE.

 

:notallthere: Cotto vs. Margarito did around 500K......and those are two guys Mayweather said didn't have a fan base and don't bring in the big PPV numbers.... before that Cotto vs. Mosley did 400-450K...what was Mayweather biggest PPV fight before DE LA HOYA?????:kick:

Mayweather and his fanboys excuse was Margarito/Cotto/Williams don't have a fanbase..so he fought Hatton...now that Hatton is out of the way he retires..no other options than another fight with Pollo....or fight one the the REAL opponents at 147....

Margarito vs. Mayweather in Vegas would be huge....on the Pac vs. DLH fight... Margarito probably got a bigger ovation than the two fighters on the Main Event...

 

Fraud is sociopathic aswell as narcisstic, he's a spoilt piece of trash who's mind isnt, nor has it ever been on the sport of boxing, it's strictly about wealth, he's a hungry little corperate pig,..like Dick Cheney or Paul Wolfawitz. Thanks to the decline of Roy Jones and the subsequent desperate rise in his popularity as a result, he begins to explore other easier means of making money that become open to him, without any possibility of suffering a blemish against his reputation, (I cant even begin to imagine how much a loss in boxing would hurt a severe narcissist like Fraud) so he participates in dancing shows and the WWE, he falls so obsessively inlove with wealth that he's now concerntrated on it fully,...heavily investing in the fucken stock market so he can buy more...errr...jewellry to flash around?..

I suppose, that kind of life style, is the envy of most in America,.. it's ..'the dream'..

 

Your PPV numbers are wrong. Jake posted the real figures and the figures are around 100K lower on each Cotto fight.


Mayweather's best PPV was against Judah(before the DLH fight like you asked). Judah/PBF did about 350K. Gatti/PBF did around 325,000 if I'm not mistaken.

That's why I think 600K is viable for a Cotto/PBF or PBF/Margarito fight (around 500K IMO).

PBF/Pac will do 850K-1 million buys. That's my guess.

 

Floyd was not a true welter, he weighed in at 145 for all but one fights there and he only fight 140 pounders for the most part while he was there. He weighs 145 and the true welters weigh 160 fight night

 

Didn't PBF offer Cotto a fight and didn't Bob Arum say that Cotto needed 18 months more to prepare. I'll Holla 5000

 

yes and proof http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=16050&more=1

 

Agreed 100%. Boxing remembers its warriors and nobody will remember Mayweather. Barely beating a shot DLH is the highlight of his career.

 

You obviously care alot man. Every Mayweather thread there is you have multiple posts in.

 

What does that have to do with buyrates?

 

I'm a boxing fan. You think I don't care or take notice of what happens in the sport rjp4p? You cannot possibly condone the actions of a man who walks into weightclasses looking only for big paydays and the easiest fights and a chance to grab a meaningless belt. Sometimes you have to swallow your pride and take on the warriors out there to prove yourself. Who forced Cotto to fight Margarito? He could've ducked him if he wanted to. Just like Floyd did. Make a whole career based off tomato cans and no-hopers.
Floyd needs to fight the real fighters out there, starting with Margarito. If he fights him, even I will put money into his pocket for that ppv. :kidcool:
I want to see Floyd against a bigger stronger relentless fighter and Williams and Margarito fit the bill. None of ths crappy Judah, Gatti, Baldomir, Mitchell, rubbish!
Fighters make the belts, belts don't make fighters. Looking at Floyd's career, it seems everything was about belts. That's his whole identity as a boxer.

 

Excellent post Hanz.

:bears::bears::bears:

 

same old song, shock g

 

dsimon writes:

Big dawg makes a great point. Its not entirely clear that Mayweather didn't attempt to make some of the fights people claim he should have made.

I do think that Mayweather has always been sensative once he became a draw, to keep on being a draw... hell margarito did the same thing when he was offered a fight with Cotto the first time.

What people don't like is that guys like Roy Jones and Floyd generally make you pay... they don't give anything away. The point is valid to a degree. The truth about boxing is that nobody remains undefeated by fighting every challenge and leaving it all in the ring. Calzighe's career was an exerscize in timing as was Floyd's. Take it for what it is worth. If the money is right Floyd will come back and everyone knows that.

 

Floyd won't be any different than any other fighter...he'll come back because he NEEDS the money.

 

Do I remember correctly that u & I have had this conversation B4 Neil?

Shall we go over it again?

I think my bit goes something like this:

As a boxing fan, I would feel dissapointed & in a sense cheated to see a great talent, & potential great fighter like PBF retire at this stage.
As a boxing fan I like to see a great talent seek out the greatest challenges available to him, & in so doing, legitimately stake his claim as a great fighter.

Winning very narrowly against a past-prime inactive for 2yrs DLH who had been beaten more convincingly by others when he was prime & active.
Throwing 35 punches a rnd against Baldomir(sp?) doesn't cut it for me.

As boxing fans we should demand more from a talent such as PBF.
Do you want to see PBF fight Cotto, Williams, Margarito, SSM?
Who are the best fighters he has fought?.
How do you think his best opponents stack up against Cotto, Williams, Margarito, SSM?-Pac-Man?

PBF retired with way too many questions unanswered.

 

i think so too

he's way too flashy to sustain himself too long for the money he's earnt...plus the leeches he has hanging onto him, the crap record label, etc

 

I would wager that you possess as much logic and objectivity as Jean Pascal does guts and toughness.

 

Are you making a Pascal-Wager Neil?

 

good post

it's not unreasonable at all to want this...how can anyone say that Floyd is "not a real welter" when he's campaigned there for so many years :dunno: he was a welterweight for 20% of his professional career, that's a long time

he moved to Welter for 2 years, and the only career welterweight he fought there was Baldomir? :doh: he definitely has unfinished business in that division

 

:bears:

 

I see what you did there. ::

 

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dsimon writes:

Yup.