Beibut Shumenov: anybody seen him fight?

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  1. Mitchell Kane

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    He's 25 years old and a former '04 Olympian from Kazakhstan.

    6-0, 5 KO's, wins over some faded, recognizable names...Shannon Miller, Donnell Wiggins, Lavell Finger, Montell Griffin.

    He's scheduled to fight another one on Saturday against Kelvin Davis in Washington.
     
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    6-0 and he's already fought those names? Damn!
     
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    Oh great, another Russian cunt gunna come along and make the division the worst it's ever been.
     
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    Excellent.
     
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    I only show one fight of his vs Kuziemski, Aleksy
     
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    Is he a cruiserweight? If so, he's fighting guys so far out of their weight class it ain't funny.
     
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    Looks like his last 3 fights have been at light heavyweigh so this fight probably is as well.
     
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  10. Arben

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    I think I've seen him fight in the Ammys, although I can't remember exactly.

    One thing I do know is that he's got tons of money behind him and his opponents have been getting paid nicely.
     
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    Looks like it's the end of the road for Borat on Saturday. Diamante makes his return to championship form with a 1st round KO. :bears:
     
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    Is this card worth going to ?? It's about 15 minutes from my house and cheap seats are like 20 bucks....
     
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    Sure, why not.
     
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    You should watch any boxing event that fits the description you gave.
     
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    ^^^^What he said.


    Cheap seats to Adamek-Cunningham was 38 bucks. Great deal.
     
  16. Mitchell Kane

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    I used to be that way, and if I lived in a place that sees as little boxing as Washington state I'd probably still be.

    It's about a Shobox-level fight, IMO, so I'd certainly make the trip for it.
     
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    It looked like a pretty good crowd on hand.

    Did they give out any numbers?
     
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    They closed off the very top two sections of the arena. It was definately much better than expected, but it wasn't close to selling out. Considering the nasty weather, I think it was a great turnout.

    Kathy Duva was very impressed and said that she wanted to do more there.


    Interesting thing though, they have a practice rink in the arena as well for the NJ Devils. There's stands there for people to watch and they'll do high school games and stuff. It seats about 1000 and Duva said she was thinking about doing small shows there.

    Really, it's a teriffic place for fights and the people at the Prudential Center were great as far as publicity went. It wasn't a bad commute for me either.


    EDIT: Plus, I only saw the first two rounds on TV quickly while I was getting ready for work this morning. Versus didn't even come close to capturing the noise in the arena. If you guys thought it was wild based off of what you saw/heard on TV, then you'd have flipped out being there live!
     
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    At least have a look at his record before you start with your tough on fighters schtick.

    one of the best 6-0 resumes i've ever seen from guys being brought up in this era of fighting cans and negative records til their early 20s...
     
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    :lol: Shutup, will ya.

    Someone said he was a cruiser...then I saw the names and alot of them had fought @ 160/168. It was an honest question. Im not wasting 15 minutes typing that guys name into boxrec to look it up, so I asked.
     
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    :lol: fair enough...


    I'll say one thing shutting out Griffin 120-107 at 175lbs is pretty damn impressive in your sixth fight. That wiggins dude fought as high as Heavy and went 8 against Jeff Lacy. Shumenov was even quicker than Pianeta who needed three rounds. But ok that fight prolly doesn't say much.

    At least some nice looking numbers. Cat is tall and looks in very good shape - i'll try to keep an eye on him, seems interesting to me. :bears:
     
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    Where did you see this fight?! If he gets pass Davis I would like to be his next fight! I've only seen photo's but he's beat some good names!:crafty:
     
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    I'll be seeing him fight in a couple hours :popcorn:
     
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    Let us know how it turns out.
     
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    :lol: Not the best eye on that fella, ya know.
     
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    Tam do you have a severe learning disability? Or physical handicap?

    15 minutes seems like a fucking long time, a preposterously long time, to type a name into boxrec.

    I can do it in a matter of seconds.
     
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    It was a tounge in cheek remark about me having to look back and forth while typing that foreign sounding cunts name into a search engine.

    But yes, I have a learning disability. Im an idiot.
     
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    It's the 1st round of 2004 olympics.
     
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    The fight was reasonably entertaining. It was a pretty small crowd, largely due to a lack of advertising. The majority of the crowd were Russians/former SSR. In fact the only reason I knew about the card was because my girlfriend is Russian (from Uzbek) and we shop at some Russian shops one of which had a fight poster for the event. Throughout the main event the Russians were shouting things, which I had translated to me as being "Kill him" "Fuck him up" "Make him cry" and the like.

    Shumenov looked like, if I dare say it, a fairly "typical" central asian fighter. Lead hand hanging very low, good power, good workrate, descent accuracy, bad defence, and mostly non-existant inside boxing ability.

    He did well when he was on the outside, landing some hard shots, and even caught Mendoza with some nice uppercuts, especially early on. As the fight progressed, Shumenov did visibly tire, but at no point did he appear in any danger of gassing, his workrate dropped a bit, and instead of trying to put together combinations he went more into a punch-clinch mode.

    Mendoza for his part didn't really do shit, he landed a few descent punches, but there was only really one or two rounds that you could say he won cleanly. He did press the action in the later rounds though, coming forward, and landed one very good punch I think in the 7th that may have rocked Shumenov.

    The fighters did clash heads quite a bit, especially in the later part of the fight as they began to fall into each other with increasing frequency. As a result there was lots of mid-round 'hand-shaking', and probably the most odd thing of this fight, was that they actually did alot of mid-round HUGGING, not clinch-hugging, but apologetic-hugging after a clash of heads. It was straight up weird at some point and you could tell the ref was equally disturbed as the audience, and he didn't really know how to deal with the excessive pseudo-homosexual behavior of the fighters! Like right after a ref break, instead of going at each other, the fighters held out there hands, then slowly embraced each other chest to chest for a period of 3 to 5 seconds, and this occured at least a half-dozen times in the fight. WTF?!?

    The scorecards if I remember correctly were all in the 8-2 round range which was pretty much spot on. Mendoza did more than just try to survive, but not ALOT more... He did press the action, particularly in the mid-late rounds, but not very effectively. For what it's worth, both fighters let it hang pretty good in the 10th, and there were some nice exchanges, with Shumenov in my opinion getting the slightly better of them.

    Overall I'd have trouble seeing Shumenov ever holding onto a world title. He may crack top 10 though and even get a title shot. His defence and his lack of infighting ability are really going to hurt him against top guys. He reminds me of Raimkulov, only with a bit lower workrate. If he can develop more inside boxing, and even vary the power on his shots (he tends to put a bit too much into shots that seem hopeless) he could get a bit further. He certainly has a good fighting spirit, and cries a loud "UD!" with every power shot. I'd gladly watch him fight again.

    :pray:

    As far as ticket value goes, you can't get alot more for $20 bucks.
     
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    Are you sure the Russians were there to cheer for him?..or were they there to hope the Churka got a beating?..
     

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