Haye to take on.......VITALI!

Groupies wouldn't have a clue about 'drainage' or any other such business; in fact, no-one here so far as I can see has said anything other than Haye has almost no chin. British or otherwise...

HOWEVER, the point remains valid that Wlad is arguably as chinny as Haye, differing weights or not. Corrie weighed not more than 225 and he tapped Wlad's chin and he chose not to engage Sultan who is a dwarf of a HW.

Again, BOTH have shitty chins; that's what made a prospective fight between the pair interesting. Haye-Vitali is still interesting, but the only logical prospect of victory for Haye against Wlad (he hits Wlad before Wlad hits him) no longer applies, and thus his chances of winning are greatly reduced...

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Corrie and Sultan are also southpaws, that can set traps.

 

Corrie Sanders is no midget, and his straight left was a devastating weapon in a division which Haye has had only a total of two fights in,...I know Wlad's chin is suspect but, doesnt that make him vunerable to virtually any heavyweight?... don't all heavyweights have a punchers chance?.. So whats all this excitement for?.. Wlad crooked draws alot more rigid than Haye's precarious shovel-plate winging on it's hinges,.. ..and we talk about Haye's 'stamina KO' to little Carl Thompson,.. how's Haye's stamina going to fare against 250 strong pounds cuddling him, and jolting him in the head with 'stunning' prods inbetween... I tend to think that Haye has the kind've infamous 'Zab Judah' type of hype Feebs,..the kind where you think you're going to see a blitzing, spectacular first round KO, because we've seen him do it against inferior opposition, but it never, ever resurfaces against the top.

 

If Haye is running out of gas in the 5th damn round he's got more problems than a shitty chin. Say what you want about his KO loss, either way it's not good. He's got a glass jaw or the shittiest stamina on the planet.

 

Haye's stamina has always been shit; I've never denied that. He wouldn't last eight rounds with either Klit on that alone.

The difference between the Judah hype is that people bought into that wholly; and do mean hook line and sinker- I and most of Haye's supporters only accept part of it. Haye can crack, BUT there is no doubt that he has AT LEAST an equal chance of being sparked clean out by either Klit the first time either connects.

That is not in any doubt at all.

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Maybe that's the case now, after the Barrett fight.

But before that, some of you Hayeseeds were talking a lot differently.

 

It wasn't good, agreed, but have you seen the fight? Haye threw about a million punches for the first three rounds and literally died a death.

Contrast that to how he fights now- despite what he wants everyone to believe, he doesn't throw many punches a round at all...in the Enzo fight, he threw about ten in four minutes

He also had enough left to come back from a KD in four against Mormeck to batter him in seven.

He has bad stamina, but it isn't as bad as the Thompson loss suggests. That fight was a long time ago

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Huh? If you applying this to me, then you are wrong. I like Haye and have seen about 90% of his fights and would never doubt that he has a bad chin. I have also always said that Haye is live against Wlad because of Wlad's chin and barely live against Vitali because of his.

For about the MILLIONTH time; Haye v any Klit is INTERESTING because Haye is the most charismatic, arrogant, interesting guy to appear there for quite some time, not because he is a favourite to beat the Klit's, because he isn't. But frankly, any interesting fight at HW nowadays is a fight worth applauding...

Oh, and if you think knocking a guy down five times somehow makes a person LESS likely to hype someone, then I'd question that logic.

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I didn't say you, specifically, I just included you among the group that talks about him the most.

And regardless of how many times Haye, or Klitschko, put Barrett on the deck, there's a lot more to consider about a fighter's performance than that.

 

Good strategy by the bros....instead of Vitaly having to defend his family owner by fighting the man that KO'ed his lil bro..he goes straight at him...and prevent punishment toward his lil bro.

 

I talk about Haye because he was a staple 'Friday Night Fights' guy on Sky Sports and so I've seen lots of his fights. Moreover, he is INTERESTING (again). That doesn't mean I think he's some beast, but HW is fucking terrible right now, and anything of interest is worth talking about.

Otherwise, what's the point of these forums, exactly?

As to the Barrett fight, it told me nothing at all that I didn't know before; Haye has power in his right hand and is weak around the whiskers. I knew that five years ago...

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"Haye's stamina has always been shit"
"has almost no chin'

I think you've said most of what needs to be said about him, frankly.

 

Yes well,.. you were indeed one of the noteable Cotto groupies, fan faring that repulsive joke "mega-fight!", Cotto-Judah,.. "But he's got a chance early!!!"... and it's no suprise you dont learn your lesson,.. more or less, you're at it again my ram..:crafty:

 

Obviously...

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So are you guys saying that Haye has less stamina than these fat heavyweights? That's a shame, he has such a hot body

 

Vitali is just ducking Carlos Gomez. Gomez made Vitali quit during sparring in Germany.

 

Sure.

 

I don't think he's afraid of anyone who got KO'd in one by the great Yanqui Diaz.

 

Well Judah did have a chance early against guys that "bring it" and guys whos chins are less that great...etc. Cotto/Hatton.....

but in this fight Haye is FUCKED....Vitaly usually doesn't go in for the kill early..and his CHIN is very good...

 

Juan Carlos Gomez....overated motherfucker...has been at Heavyweight for YEARS...hasn't fought anyone worth a DAMN.....beyond shot McCall...and Samil Spam...

Fucker got blasted by Yanqui Diaz....and never rematch him....whatever the excuse he should have rematch the bum...

 

Don't disrespect the Sam.

 

Could Sam become a MMA legand?

 

Gomez got fluke KO'd, big whoop.

He still kicks Vitali's ass anytime the robot stops fighting cruiser weights.

 

More on the restaurant incident from Boxingscene;

 

Agreed. Vitali should stop facing former cruiserweights and instead take on Gomez:bears:

 

I see the Haye band-wagon isn't over. Since it isn't Wlad, are you guys still willing to bet on Haye?

 

Fluke Ko' that he never avenge....:cheer: maybe it wasn't so flukish...

 

In other words, fight a different former cruiserweight.

 

Yes, because Sam Peter is a Cruiserweight and JC Gomez is not a former Cruiserweight.

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