Who do you want to see

That u normaly don't see on HBO or Shotime. Boxer don't have to be best. Would make a good undercard or even a main even, just match right. Would be nice to see new faces.

Chris John- I want to see more of him. He has wins over some good fighters
Bernard Dune- He's fun to watch for me for some reason
Mormeck- Don't remember when was the last time I saw him fight. Bring him back.
Gerry Penalosa- Been fighting in the middle of nowhere. Let the public see him. Then send him to the slater in Lopez
Edwin Valero-
Brian Viloria- What the hell hapen to him? bring him back
Bernabe Concepcion-
Andy Lee-

 

Some champions that come to mind are Sergei Dzinziruk, Andreas Kotelnik and Jorge Linares.

There's a bunch of prospects that I'd like to see on B.A.D.

 

David Haye!

I have only seen clips of him on youtube and the Mcarinelli fight on Showtime.

He seems exciting and that's what the heavyweight division needs.

Weather he wins or loses I think he brings the right attitude to the ring along with his skilss and power.

 

I'm sorry, but besides Haye and Valero, everyone listed is a f'n stinker or just isn't very good.

 

Is that to say Haye and Valero are very good?

 

Mormeck, Linares, Dzinziruk, Kotelnik, John and Lee aren´t entertaining or good?


I want to see fights between fighters, who can still go. Match-ups like Froch vs. Pascal, Margarito vs. Cotto, Cunningham vs. Adamek, Darchinyan vs. Mijares. Not some old washed up has beens like Mosley vs. Mayorga, Calzaghe vs. Jones or Klitschko vs. Rahman. And at the same time I want the networks/sanctioning bodies to put more pressure on the young fighters. Stop wasting our time. Dimitrenko or Arreola, don´t want the title spot opened up by Povetkin´s injury, then don´t come asking for another two years.

 

Linares looked like an exciting boxer against Larios. That's the only time I saw him fight, though.

 

I think they're good enough and relative enough to their divisions than most of the other fighters listed.


I forgot about Linares. He'd be a goot fit for BAD.

Mormeck isn't good enough and hasn't been since he first lost to Bell.

Linares is.

Dzinziruk is boring.

Kotelnik's best moment has been losing to Junior Witter. He doesn't deserve any better than the B side of a BAD undercard.

Chris John is boring and doesn't matter to boxing. We've lived without him for all these years, and will continue to live without him while he hides away in the jungles of Indonesia.

Any Lee should graduate from ESPN2 before he gets a look at HBO.




On HBO and Showtime, I want to see good fun fights featuring good fighters. The fights that you listed in your second paragraph are exactly what I want to see. Fresh faces who can fight. Lee, John, Kotelnik, Dzinziruk, and Mormeck aren't that. One or two can be that one day, but not today.

 

I didn't mention Kotelnik and Dzinziruk for showcase fights.

Kotelnik against any of the talked about guys at 140 - Hatton, Bradley, Holt, Torres, Ortiz, et al - would be a good BAD fight, IMO.

BTW, have you seen Witter-Kotelnik? If so, how'd you score it?

As for Dzinziruk, a fight against the interim, Williams, is a very good BAD fight, IMO. Or against Forrest, a rematch with Santos, Sergio Martinez, something like that.

 

Hatton's got a fight lining up against Pacquaio. I'd rather see that. I'd also prefer to see him in the ring against everyone else you listed before Kotelnik.

Bradley is facing Holt, most likely. I'd rather see that. I'd also prefer to see him in the ring against everyone else you listed before Kotelnik.

Torres is probably waiting on Bradley-Holt. I'd rather see that. I'd also prefer to see him in the ring against everyone else you listed before Kotelnik.

Ortiz isn't ready for a world title, but I'd prefer to see him in the ring against everyone else you listed before Kotelnik.

Williams has nobody lined up, but I'd prefer to see him in the ring against Forrest, Sergio Martinez, or any top Welterweight before Dzinziruk.

I'd rather see Forrest face Martinez and even sloppy ass Santos before I see him fight Dzinziruk.



Sometimes, when playing matchmaker, you understand why sorry matches were made and accept it. Instead, people need to start demanding good matchups.

Dzinziruk, whose faced two notable opponents in his entire career has also never been in an exciting fight and has never been out of europe. He doesn't matter to boxing.

 

I'd like to keep seeing Gamboa pushed on us until he gets KTFO Khan style.

 

You have a lower opinion of both fighters than I do.

Dzinziruk is the WBO champ, Williams is the WBO interim champ, and Dzinziruk has said he wants the fight and would travel to the US to make the fight.

But I guess waiting on TBA is more interesting to you.

 

No, fights that are actually interesting are more interesting to me. I don't even think Williams-Dzinziruk isn't interesting to HBO, which shows you how much Dzinziruk belongs in this discussion.

But Williams is trying to land a fight against Forrest is alot more appealing than a boring fighter that nobody has ever heard of.


I'm not saying Dzinziruk isn't any good. I actually think he's the best at 154lbs. But he's a stinker, and my New Years resolution is going to be all about not watching fights that will put me to sleep.

 

I can't say I agree with your thinking, but even if you think he's a stinker - and granted, he's not that exciting - I can't see a fight with Williams being that boring...at least not as boring as his fight with Phillips was.

And if you want exciting fights, then I don't understand the criticism of Kotelnik, who has a pretty engaging style. His fight with Rees was one of the best of the year, IMO.

 

Kotelnik is nowhere near as important to the 140lbs picture than any of the fighters in the title picture right now.

And using Rees as a gauge of your ability isn't saying all that much.

 

Marcos Maidana should be on everyone's list who doesn't see him fight regularly.

 

That's certainly apropos that you mention him, given that Kotelnik's supposed to defend against him next year.

 

I was using that fight as a gauge for his entertainment value, not his ability, given that you seem more concerned in the former than the latter.

Granted, Rees isn't a hard style to look exciting against, but Kotelnik has a very watchable style.

 

Kotelnik is the most underrated guy at 140lb right now, and by some distance IMHO.

His beating of Rees was extremely entertaining...

MTF

 

Dzinziruk-Santos was a damn good fight and chessmatch and not boring at all. Granted thats the only fight Ive seen of Dzinziruk, but based on that, you cant say ALL his fights are boring.

And you'll see blizards in hell before you see Vernon Forrest fight Dzinziruk. Vern would get his ass kicked from pillar to post.

 

if you think Dzinziruk is a stinker Forrest is worst and is old which would make this fight even less meaningful.

For all the shit Williams talks about being ducked it's pretty lame for him to win the WBO interim champ and not fight the real champ as if it was a step down.

Especially when most have Dzinziruk as the best at 154!

 

Julio and Konecny were very entertaining fights. Haven´t seen the Lujan bout, but Lujan is never in a bad fight. Nadirbegov though was truly horrible.