Agreed. Wanderlei is a motherf*cker to the core who salivated at hurting people. He's the last guy whom anybody should be sympathizing for. Not to mention he crushed Jackson twice in Pride. Besides, Silva's just fine. The only thing hurting right now is his ego.
Wow, you guys need to watch the video again. Rampage clearly throws 2 and maybe 3 shots after the ref grabs him around the waste. It was clear watching it live that he ignored the ref to land that last shot for emphasis. I don't personally care one way or another, but I just thought it was a pussy move that still doesn't erase the brutal Pride beatdowns.
Yep, like I said, it usually takes them a second or 2 to snap out of it. It's not often you see a fighter jump off their opponent in a SPLIT SECOND, as soon as the ref touches them :: Shit, same with subs all the time, how often do fighters release the sub as soon as the fighter taps? It usually takes the ref pulling them off. The ref grabbed him for literally a second, then Rampage jumped off, it was nothing out of the ordinary, I don't know what you're talking about.
He also reffed the Forrest/Rashad fight. After the event, Dana WHite called him " a nice guy, but not a ref", whatever that means.
well, just because it happens often does not mean it's not a pussy move. Same with BJ Penn holding on to the choke against Pulver for two extra seconds, or what Rampage did, or all other such instances. It always looks the coolest when the victor just walks away from his victim, no extra strikes required: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xhtbv_anderson-silva-kos-tony-fryklund_extreme
That's just It, the Ref was BEHIND Rampage...N MOST Stoppage Situations, the Ref is N a BETTER, Usually FRONTAL Position, where he can Grab the Fighters ARMS & PUSH Him Away from the Fallen Opponent... It's a Bit HARDER to Get a Guy OUT of "The Moment" when U're Coming up from Behind, Don't U Think???...1nce a Fighter SEES a Ref Intervene, he KNOWS to Stop Punching....REED ISN'T Saying that Rampage DIDN'T Land some Extra Shots, but the POSITIONING of the Ref is what Gave Rampage that Opportunity... It Certainly WASN'T Any More "Flagrant" than MOST MMA KO's... REED:fightme:
Exactly... It Takes a Second or 2 to Go from KILL to CALM...But if the Ref is N FRONT of the Fighter, it's Generally EASIER to Get him OUT of "Kill" Mode... REED:hammert:
See that's my thought as well. Watching it as it happened it clearly seemed that Rampage fought against the ref pulling him off to land those last two shots. I'm sure Rampage wanted to expel some demons. But that will be my last post about it. It's over and it's ultimately no big deal. Silva's a big boy and dished out his share of pain.
Wow, what a night of fights. I am like the last one to post on this, watched them at a bro's house, fucker doesn't have internet:bangh: It took me a while, but I read this whole thread and wished I could've been in some of the convo's, so forgive me but I feel the need to add my two cents:mj: I laughed at the post about CB sounding gay, where I was everyone was saying the exact same thing. He did look good though. I agree with Gatti though, he looked like he tapped right at the first of the choke. Props for getting out though. Kongo has star quality, he just needs better training or something. The guy should be elite. He needs to do more with the talent he has. Good win over sub-par opposition. Rampage's hook was pretty. Nice and tight. I do think he took about two extra shots for revenge purposes. Watch the replay. I know what you are saying REED, it is hard to shut it off immediately when the ref calls it. Many guys throw one more after the ref waves it off. But after the Ref grabs Rampage, he throws (I counted) 3 more punches. But to agree with Hanzy, if you ever saw Wandy in Pride, the guy isn't the right guy to feel sorry for. I would never call Wandy a "good sportsman" by any means. Mir looked good. Nog looked bad. Mir's striking looked very average, Nog's defense looked really bad, he wouldn't throw back, it reminded me a bit of Roy Jr in his last couple fights. Now before anyone gets crazy, I am not saying Nog and Roy are on the same level in their boxing skills:bangh:. I just remember watching Roy against Calslappy, and thinking Roy would have never let Joe just throw punches without Roy pulling the trigger first. Roy had lost it, he couldn't pull the trigger. I felt the same way with Nog on Saturday night. It was depressing almost. Both Nog and Wandy were in their primes in Pride, for those who never got to see it, just realize they are shells of the fighters they once were. Perfect for Dana White, gives his prospect star in Lesnar a chance to redeem himself. I do think Lesnar wins the rematch. But then, I thought Nog and Forrest were gonna win so who the fuck cares what I think?:dunno::dunno: Rashad won nicely. He is a good fighter. But like REED, I just can't put my self in his corner. He does nothing great, but is very solid. I think Machida beats him. Shogun beats him. Anderson beats him. I also think Henderson and Franklin beat him. Like, BYG, I never thought Forrest was elite. A very solid fighter who was over acheiving. I like the fight with Rampage though, hard to pick a winner there for me. But regardless, Rashad is a tough fight for anyone, just because he isn't reckless, very methodical and doesn't make many mistakes. Hanzy is right, Forrest should have to get back in line. A fight with Machida or possibly the winner of Franklin/Henderson. But no rematch with Rashad right now. Let the next take a shot.
seems to be some sort of trend with rampage, between this and (as TFK put it) his abortion clinic on wheels you gotta wonder about the guy
Just caught UFC92 last night - what a card! Frank Mir looked very good his stand up was much improved, he landed some great shots. Rampages hook was sweet right on the kisser Boom! Not impressed with Evans, he is very average IMO and will not hold the title for long and will be easy pickings for the winner of Franklin V Henderson if the winner fights for the title. CB is a punk and I cant wait to see him sleep in the octagon.
Rich Franklin is tailor made for Evans IMO. Franklin isn't a legit 205, he's not that strong or fast, his striking skills are dogsh*t, he has no chin, he's way overrated! Evans is gonna eat his liver! Likewise with Henderson. He brings nothing.
Ditto here. Henderson is an animal. You just can't debate that. Franklin has lost to 2 guys (Anderson Silva and Machida at 205) in almost 30 MMA fights. In my opinion, if Anderson Silva was never invented, Rich Franklin would be on everyone's Top 5 P4P list.
most definitely, I would pick Rich Franklin over most at 205 as well. Dan henderson would be right at the top if it weren't for Silva as well. Silva in this era is the closest thing in the UFC to Roy Jr in his prime. Roy made many good fighters look average at best. Silva does the same.
Silva's prime won't even be a quarter of the 16 years of dominance Roy enjoyed, plus Silva has already lost 4 times.
Yeah, his losses were to all top competition:bangh: Everyone in MMA is top competition because of the parity of the sport.
