Is Sugar Shane Being UNDERestimated???...

Margarito came into his prime at the right time at 147...in the late 90's-early 00' he would've been beaten by the Mosley, Trinidad, DLH, Quartey at WELTER...

 

Margarito was around.

 

He's not just being underestimated... he's misunderestimated !

 

if mosely was in his prime today, i think he'd comfortably beat margorito... and he definitely would've ko'd cotto.

 

LOL,...opcorn: Even Oscar knew that Margarito would have done his stamina troubles wonders,..and he'd have torn Trinidad's illegal wrap off with his teeth,...you seem to think 'popularity' can be used as a devastating weapon in the ring?,...of that list, only a younger Mosely scrapes by on points, in a very flustering, hurtful fight.

 

Oscar would box circles around Margarito....

Trinidad would have crack Margarito IRON CHIN..and made it useless for the rest of his life...Margarito would have taken a career ending beating at the hand of Trinidad.....

You damn right about Shane vs. Margarito though....:cheer:

 

both of you are clowns if you think Margarito sucks and just happens to rule in a bad era.

I bet you weren't thinking this bad of him when he was about to fight Cotto.

I think both Shane and Tito would have beaten him. But no way would they have dominated him.

neither guy ever dominated someone like Margarito.

 

For how long?

He showed against Trinidad he couldn't do it for a full twelve rounds, and Margarito would've done more in the early and middle rounds than lead foot managed to do.

As for Trinidad, at 147, I'm not inclined to agree with you.

 

Trinidad would ruin Margarito...it will be sustain beating similar to the one he gave Vargas...but fighters take more damage..Marg alot more of course he isn't as good as Vargas...

 

How many sustained beatings "similar to the one he gave Vargas" did he give out at welterweight?

 

Most of Us Thought even WORSE of Margarito, Prior to the Cotto Fight...



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That's just It...

Most Welters COULDN'T Withstand Tito's Shots Looooooooooong Enough to Take the Type of SUSTAINED Beating Vargas Did...Tito was Tooooooo Busy Putting Guys to Sleep EARLY, as a Welter...

No Matter HOW U Slice it, Tito's PRECISION POWER PUNCHING is a BAD Matchup for Margarito's WILLINGNESS to Eat Headshots...There's Only Soooooo Much ANY Man Can Take & Tito is 1 of the BETTER Welterweight Punchers EVER...



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He was weaker welterweight, especially towards the end at 147....and it's not like he fought a lot of elite oppoents at the weight.

Trinidad was precise with his hook, but he was also a finesse fighter...one that preferred space and punched with timing. Margarito's style would've been a tough one for him to deal with.

 

Not many...most opponents were KNOCK THE FUCK OUT...early...Oba Carr got a good prolong beating...

147 Trinidad would not only crack Margarito's chin...but bust him to the body also....:cheer:

 

But when was Tito's Welterweight Performance EVER Compromised Because of Weight???...He Certainly NEVER Looked "Weaker" on Fightnight, @ 147...

Margarito's an Elite Welter TODAY...That Doesn't Mean he was Elite BACK THEN...From Whatever Range, Tito was HEAVY HANDED & NOT the Kind of Fighter U Wanted to Trade 2 for 1 w/...

Even @ MIDDLEWEIGHT, NOBODY's Fought that Way & BEAT Tito...



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A prime Tito woulda butchered Margarita, no ifs ands or butts. I dont think theres a welterweight in history with a face first style that would last the distance with a prime Tito, nevermind win. I dont care how good Tony's chin is, walking into Tito's shots equals suicide. I think Margarito woulda gotten Campas'd in about 8 rounds by Tito.

And as for the topic at hand, much as I'd LOOVE to see Shane beat this sloth, its not gonna happen. He's just too old, and cant pull the trigger enough anymore. A prime Mosley woulda done a number on Marg(and Cotto too for that matter) but Shane is gonna get beaten up and possibly stopped next saturday.

 

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I see that you went and watched "W" too.

 

Trinidad couldn't stop going to the canvas at 147. Well, he couldn't stop going there at any weight, but at 147 he - and his legs - weren't nearly as strong as they were at 154.

If Trinidad didn't put him away, he'd get pressured and roughed up on the inside and he would get hurt.

 

Trinidad's hook would've done damage, but his jab and right hand would not have.

I don't know that one punch is enough for him to beat Margarito.

 

He'd put him away, trust me. Pressure was NOT the way to beat Tito. Not with zero defense like Tony has.

 

Pressure would be better that staying at a nice cozy distance for Trinidad to unload.

Margarito would push Trinidad, make him fight off the back foot.

Trinidad would land hooks as Margarito came in, but if he didn't seriously hurt him with those punches he's be vulnerable.

 

How Many TRUE 1-Punch Bombers has Margarito FACED, Never Mind Walked Thru???...



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Just hooks? I think you're thinking of the older, one punch at a time Tito. Felix would be hitting Tony with hooks, rights, and uppercuts with both hands as Tony came in. Marg's chin is good, but he's not Hagler or Jake Lamotta. He CAN be hurt, its happened before, and he never faced a puncher like Tito.

 

You act like Trinidad never cared about getting hit.

 

Tito's chin was no worse than Cotto's, who it took Tony 11 rounds to stop, and although Tito was no defensive wiz, his D was alot more solid than Tony's. He'd be getting hit way less of the two.

 

Margarito was reaching Cotto as early as the second round. His chin looked like it would hold up until he ran out of gas at the end of the tenth and into the eleventh.

It all depends where he fight is fought. Trinidad was not an infighter, at all. He was inept in close.

 

It's FLAWED to Look @ Tito that Way...Guys WEREN'T Willing to Pay the Price to INFIGHT w/Tito & the 1 Guy that Did (Bernard), Spent about 7 or 8 Rounds Picking Tito Apart from the PERIMETER 1st...Come to Think of It, Winky Wright Did Also, but his DEFENSE was Toooooooo TIGHT for Tito's Offense...

Tito was HEAVY HANDED...He had TRUE POWER on the END of his Punches AND from CLOSE Range...That's why the # of Guys that Exploited his Infighting is Sooooooooo FEW...

Sorry, No SUAR Defensive Fighter (Which Margarito CLEARLY Is) Would BEAT Tito Trinidad by Trying to OUTMAN him...He'd B THE HARDEST Puncher Margarito's EVER Faced & it's VERY Presumptuous to Assume Margarito COULD Trade 2 -3 Punches to 1 & WIN...



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At 147 Trinidad was a much more well rounded fighter he would go to the head and BODY with his punches...and could throw every punch in the book...INCLUDING the UPPERCUT...

Margarito's way of fighting doesn't help him vs. Trinidad..he can't eat Tito's punches then comeback late.....USUALLY it was TRINIDAD who came out later in the fight...

 

How many fighters did Trinidad fight at welteweight with the size and style of Margarito?

Trinidad would have to be pinpoint accurate with his hook in this fight, throughout however long it lasted.

Margarito's defense isn't great, but it's not non-existant. He blocks more punches, and smothers more punches, than he gets credit for. His use of distance is under-rated.

I think Trinidad would've had real difficultly with his footwork in this fight and getting the space he prefers to punch at.

 

Margarito's arms are long, they cover a great deal of his body.

He's not Hugo Pineda, no matter how much you want him to be.