manny has bottled it.

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  1. who?

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    its a fight he doesn't want and knows he's going to lose.

    shame on him.

    60/40 my arse.
     
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    Yeah, Manny is being a cunt right now. And it makes no sense at all, cause outside of Floyd, Hatton is the ONLY current opponent Manny can make so much against. If he pulls out of fighting Hatton, who's he gonna fight? He can take 80% of the purse against someone else and not make as much as he will with a 50/50 vs Hatton. It makes no sense, and Manny is acting very ill-informed and childish. UNLESS, he's trying to intentionally scrap this fight so he can go straight toward fighting Floyd, but that makes no sense either cause PBF wants a 60/40 split in his favor.

    If I'm Hatton, I wont budge from 50/50. Fuck Manny wanting 60/40. Manny will eventually just have to give in, cause he's not gonna make as much coin fighting anyone else.
     
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    Nah, he's just sick of being ripped off.

    He deserves 60/40, he's several classes above Hatton.

    And although hatton is hugely popular in the UK, Pacman is a legend in the Phillipines and Asia. AND he is more popular in America.

    Overall Pacman is the superior and more popular fighter, he should get more.
     
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    Hes right he deserves 60/40. Hell beat his ass 100/0 in the ring too.
     
  5. who?

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    well that makes sense.
     
  6. joony

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    can manny sellout a stadium fighting juan lazcano? parity is more than fair.

    pacquiao is a great fighter, but i question his character and judgement outside the ring.

    i hope hatton takes this fight at 60/40 and beats his ass.
     
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    In the phillipines? Absolutely.

    But I think 50/50 is fair.
     
  9. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    It ain't Hatton's fault he allows so many hands in his pockets.
     
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    This is the biggest possible fight in boxing. I'm sure they'll work something out.
     
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    dsimon writes:

    Gosh... I would have no way of determining who is worth more in this case. I have to say though... what is wrong with a nice clean 50 50 split? Its not like one guy is doing the other any favors. They both need each other frankly thats the bottom line.

    I confess to ignorance on the formula for figuring this out but my gut reaction is to think Manny is right inthis case. Simply because 50 50 makes the most sense. Besides Hatton's fans are obnoxious drunken idiots who sing fairy songs... fuck em mates!!!:hump::popcorn:
     
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    Completely irrevelant that PacMan has more fan than Hatton, what is revelant is how much $$$$ his fans are willing to shell to see him fight and in that case Hatton shit all over PacMan, 50-50 is more than fair and Hatton shouldnt give Manny a penny more than he would get himself.
     
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    Manny could sell out 10 stadiums fighting in the Phillipines.
     
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    yea, if they sold tickets for like 10 bucks.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    yeah but will that generate more MONEY..than HATTON selling out 3 in the UK??? PROBABLY NOT>.....
     
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    Pacman is more popular than Hatton in America.

    I bet more Americans pay to see Pacman than Hatton.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    50/50 is fair........but if they wanna bet their purse on it...they can have it so that the WINNER take 60...and loser 40...


    the first one to bark at that is scared of losing....:hammert:
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    maybe..maybe not...but Hatton will at least generate 600K ppv in the UK...Pac won't come close to that in the states
     
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    He's Probably More Popular NOW, but that was Certainly DEBATEABLE Prior to the DeLa Fight...

    if, If, IF Manny's More Popular Now, it's only SLIGHTLY...


    REED:hammert:
     
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    somebody remind Pacquiao what the ppv sales were against David Diaz last summer before the Oscar fight.

    Seriously! Hatton is huge draw and that's one the main reasons this fight is to be maid because of the huge draw from both guys.


    Manny said he made a sacrifice taking less against Oscar. :atu:


    The fact that Manny is going against Arum and Roach should tell his dumb ass how far off he is in negotiations.
     
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    Why shouldn't Manny get 60%? I can't believe any of you are questioning Manny's willingness to take on the best. I also can't believe so many of you are convinced that Hatton would beat Pacquiao. The only guy Hatton has faced with hand-speed like Pacquiao was Mayeather. And he was knocked out by him. And Mayweather is not exactly Ernie Shavers.
     
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    I highly doubt it but even if it was the case, what about all of the british fans that will fly to the US for this fight, how many will fly from the phillipinnes for Pac ???? 20 or 30 ???????
     
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    Because Hatton is a LEGITIMATE Draw N his OWN Right...& Who's Questioning Manny's Willingness to Take on the Best???...


    REED:dunno:
     
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    Hatton is the bigger draw and the fight would be for his title

    Pacman is a stupid monkey :warning:
     
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    Why is Manny being a cunt?? He takes a HUGE risk of losing against these guys simply because he is a naturally smaller dude than they are.
    IMO, Pac made the big jump, defied the odds and now has EARNED the position to do the same things that Oscar, Floyd, Bernard and Roy Jones has done before him.

    And he's a cunt?:dunno:
     
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    Hatton is a huge draw and the champ, fuck Manny.
    50/50 is fair.
     
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    Arum's reaction is funny. He must be pissed because apparently he talked to Manny a day ago and reported that everything was back on track. Expecting Manny to sign the contract by Thursday.

    On Thursday the report was that Manny still wants 60/40 :lol:

    Pacquiao still has the same problem as always with too many people telling him how to manage his carreer. The guy is getting 50% of the British TV which Floyd didn't get. yet he still wants more :notallthere:
     
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    What, the 60-40 split Pacquiao was aking was for the whole revenue, not only US revenue ????? He is really a dumb mf if he thinks he should get more money than Hatton considering the $$$$$ this fight would generate in the UK. In fact, Hatton should say I take 100% of the UK money and you take 100% of the one in the phillipines, we split 50-50 on the rest.
     
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    Good plan. Let Manny have 60/40 of the main purse and let Ricky take 100% of the British earnings. See who comes away with more and if Manny still thinks he's the biggest draw in this fight.
     
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    well there's plenty here implying that Pacquiao's insistence on a 60/40 split is a RJJ move - a way to price himself out of a fight he doesn't think he can win.

    If he's asking for 60/40, it's sure's hell not because he wants to avoid a fight with Hatton. That's all I'm saying. And Pacquiao holds the cards if Hatton intends on resurrecting his status. That part gets overlooked. Sure he's a huge draw. Well then let him fight Tom, Dick and Harry.

    But obviously, he has something to prove, and I think Manny knows it, and sees it as worthy of a 20% advantage on his part.

    If Hatton is the draw here, why is he going after Manny in the first place? Like I said, why not go back to fighting Tom, Dick and Harry like he used to? You guys act like Hatton could make just as much fighting some unknown contender as he could fighting the World's P4P #1 fighter in the world.

    If PBF demanded 60/40 against Hatton, nobody would say a thing except that PBF deserves it because at the time he was the world's p4p #1 fighter in the world.

    The bottom line is, this isn't a case of Pacquiao trying to price himself out of a fight he doesn't think he can win. It's him trying to get the pct of earnings he feels he's entitled to given his accomplishments and his popularity, and the fact that Hatton has few other options when it comes to reviving his reputation as anyone other than a guy who was KO'd by the best fighter he faced, nearly lost to Collazo, looked like shit against Tackie and Urango, and hasn't had a significant win since beating an over the hill Kostya Tszyu.

    Hatton is so over-rated it's hilarious. Pacquiao would tear him apart. He just wants to be well compensated for his efforts.

    My guess is a compromise will be reached not because Pacquiao in any way needs Hatton to maintain his status and continue to be the draw that he is, but that Hatton thinks he can beat Pacquiao and must do so if he's not to be written off very soon as an underachieving hack who had one significant win his entire career.
     

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