hatton - pacman, may 2 2009

ILLUMINATI · Jan 21, 2009

royyjonesjrp4pno1 said: ↑

Marquez would make Hatton his puto.
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:doh:::

REEDsART · Jan 21, 2009

ILLUMINATI said: ↑

:doh:::
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Ignore him...He Isn't the LEAST Bit Objective when it Comes to Hatton...

REED:mj:

royyjonesjrp4pno1 · Jan 21, 2009

REEDsART said: ↑

Ignore him...He Isn't the LEAST Bit Objective when it Comes to Hatton...

REED:mj:
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Based off of what. My 100% prediction record since and including the Tszyu fight. Only fight i ever predicted he would lose was the Mayweather fight. JMM is on another level to Hatton he would beat his ass.

REEDsART · Jan 21, 2009

royyjonesjrp4pno1 said: ↑

Based off of what. My 100% prediction record since and including the Tszyu fight. Only fight i ever predicted he would lose was the Mayweather fight. JMM is on another level to Hatton he would beat his ass.
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It's Very EASY to Say your Prediction Record is 100% when NOBODY Cares Enough to Keep Track or Validate it...JM Marquez Beat a Career 130 lb'der (Casa) for the Lightweight Title & that Means he'll "Beat Hatton's Ass" @ 140???...

REED:boohoo:

Mitchell Kane · Jan 21, 2009

royyjonesjrp4pno1 said: ↑

Good now Hatton can fade into obscurity, he ain't shit without Pac. We can get the real fights Pac-JMM 3, Pac-Valero or Pac-Money May.
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Pacquiao's side hasn't shown any interest in a third fight with Marquez since the second one ended.

Valero is a good fight, but doesn't bring near the same money.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Hatton fight Mayweather again before Pacquiao does.

LATIN KING · Jan 21, 2009

pacquiao is still an idiot ::

talk about fucking up the huge momentum of that Delahoya upset.

Hatton/Pacquiao was getting made because of their draw. you have to respect each guy's draw.

Hatton has a huge following that travels to the USA to see him. Pacquiao's following is his entourage. :atu:

whiskey · Jan 21, 2009

Please don't tell me we're going to get Oscar-Hatton.

PLEASE!!

Ugh!!

Mitchell Kane · Jan 21, 2009

LA Times: Golden Boy reacts.

Hatton calls off fight with Pacquiao
After Philippine boxing star Manny Pacquiao fails to meet a deadline for a deal on a May 2 fight in England, Ricky Hatton tells his promoter to seek other opponents.
By Lance Pugmire

12:16 PM PST, January 21, 2009

What would've been Manny Pacquiao's most lucrative fight yet has been called off by his scheduled May 2 opponent Ricky Hatton, whose camp grew tired of waiting for the Philippine star to sign a contract.

Hatton's camp on Tuesday informed his promoter, Richard Schaefer of Oscar De La Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions, that Pacquiao had until early today to agree to terms in a signed deal or that Schaefer should begin seeking other opponents for a May 2 fight in England, including De La Hoya.

When that signed contract never materialized by fax at Schaefer's downtown Los Angeles office, and there was no indication it was coming, Schaefer proclaimed, "The fight is off."

Schaefer said he has canceled a press tour with the fighters to promote Pacquiao-Hatton in the U.K. next week, and that he feels as burned as he did about two years ago when Pacquiao accepted a briefcase filled with $250,000 in cash from Schaefer and De La Hoya to join Golden Boy Promotions, then recanted and signed with Bob Arum's Top Rank promotions.

"I don't know what he's thinking," Schaefer said. "What a waste of time, money and effort. Am I surprised he's changed his mind? No. He did it to me two years ago. We had booked the planes, the hotels, printed the press kits for the press tour. It was all ready to go, a big production.

"Frankly, I'm disgusted at the behavior of Manny Pacquiao. He's a spoiled young kid who doesn't know how to behave."

Pacquiao produced a fighter-of-the-year campaign in 2008, beating Juan Manuel Marquez by decision to win a world super-featherweight title, knocking out David Diaz to claim a world lightweight belt and then hammering De La Hoya in a non-title welterweight bout.

Arum late Tuesday also expressed great frustration at Pacquiao's hesitance to sign a deal, which would have given him a slightly greater split of a verbal 50-50 split of the purse with some extra promotional profits thrown his way. Arum had boarded a plane to Los Angeles this morning and was not immediately available for comment, a Top Rank spokesman said.

Hatton has told Schaefer to explore possible May 2 foes at Wembley Stadium, including the winner of next month's lightweight bout between Marquez and Juan Diaz, or De La Hoya, or Floyd Mayweather Jr., who knocked out Hatton in late 2007 and has let it be known he's ready to end his brief retirement.

De La Hoya is in Southern California this week to watch his fighter Shane Mosley challenge world welterweight champion Antonio Margarito at Staples Center. It appeared he was headed to retirement after his sluggish showing against Pacquiao on Dec. 6, when De La Hoya failed to answer the bell for the ninth round after a thorough beating.

"I'll talk to Oscar," Schaefer said. "I don't know what he'll do. We'll sit down and talk about it this week."
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royyjonesjrp4pno1 · Jan 21, 2009

That article lies. Oscar isn't going to be Margarito-Mosley saturday night.

Mitchell Kane · Jan 21, 2009

More of the same, from Dan Rafael:

Pacquiao won't sign; fight called off

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By Dan Rafael
ESPN.com

The proposed May 2 showdown between Manny Pacquiao and junior welterweight champ Ricky Hatton is off, according to representatives for both fighters.

Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer, who represents Hatton, told ESPN.com on Wednesday that he's canceled next week's planned media tour and will begin negotiating with other potential opponents immediately. Bob Arum of Top Rank, who promotes Pacquiao, confirmed that the fight is off.

"The fight is off and I instructed [tour manager] Kelly Swanson to cancel the tour," said Schaefer, clearly upset. "It's off and we are now pursuing our other options. That's it. The Hattons called me and asked again if we had a signed deal from Pacquiao and when I said we didn't, they said they won't sit around anymore. They would like me to explore three fights they are interested in."

As soon as Pacquiao finished off Oscar De La Hoya for an overwhelming TKO victory on Dec. 6, attention turned to the pound-for-pound king's next mega fight, a proposed May 2 showdown against Hatton.

Arum and Schaefer quickly wrapped up negotiations and Hatton agreed to a 50-50 split of the revenue, even though he generates substantially more money in British television rights than Pacquiao could ever hope to generate in the poorer Philippines.

Arum and Schaefer shopped the fight to the big Las Vegas casinos. They struck a deal with the MGM Grand and were in talks with HBO and Showtime about a pay-per-view deal.

But all along, there was trouble. Pacquiao (48-3-2, 36 KOs) refused to back off his demand for a bigger share of the pie. For weeks, they've gone back and Hatton eventually agreed to give Pacquiao a few more points. However, Pacquiao still had not signed by a Wednesday deadline and Hatton and his father, Ray Hatton, instructed Schaefer to pull the plug on the fight.

"Manny decided not to sign," Arum said. "He was unhappy with the terms. So I contacted Schaefer and I told him the situation and he acted accordingly, which means the fight is off. The suits can posture but it's the fighters who have to go in the ring and fight. But I am not thrilled right now."

Schaefer said Hatton (45-1, 32 KOs) still planned to fight May 2 and three names they gave him as opponents to explore deals with, in no particular order, were the winner of the Feb. 28 fight between lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez and Juan Diaz, Golden Boy boss De La Hoya and Floyd Mayweather, who is retired but has said he would listen to proposals. In his last fight, Mayweather knocked out Hatton in the 10th round in December 2007.

"The Hattons expressed to me an interest in those fights and about doing them in England," Schaefer said. "Ricky would like to fight Mayweather in a rematch in England and I will be meeting with Oscar this week to see if he's interested. The Hattons have expressed an interest for some time in doing a fight at Wembley Stadium with Oscar, so I need to see if Oscar is interested. And I know I can make a deal with the winner of Marquez-Diaz."

Golden Boy promotes Marquez and Diaz.

"The Hattons told me they don't care who it is, they just want to get things locked in," Schaefer said. "They said, 'Whoever you get a deal done with first is who Ricky will fight.' "

Schaefer conceded that if a signed contract from Pacquiao showed up and he had not made a deal with somebody else, the fight could be saved.

"We're going to go and lock in another fight, but if Pacquiao calls in an hour or a day and I don't have a fight locked in, I'll call the Hattons and let them know," he said."But I don't really want to call the Hattons about anything with the name Manny Pacquiao on it because they want to chop off my head. They are pretty upset right now, and I don't blame them.

"What a waste of time and effort and money this whole thing has been. I flew to New York to talk to the TV partners, I flew to Vegas. My time is money. This has just been a wasted effort. I'm just so sick and tired of the games Pacquiao keeps playing and so are Ricky Hatton and Bob Arum as well."

Schafer and Arum have been through this sort of drama with Pacquiao before. It happened when De La Hoya and Pacquiao played hardball on the split of the money for their fight. Pacquiao eventually accepted a 68-32 deal in De La Hoya's favor.

"It's unfortunate and not uncommon for fighters to make these kinds of decisions," Schaefer said. "When you beat the man, you think you are the man. Pacquiao is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world and as his co-promoter (with a small percentage) we are proud of him. But he thinks by beating Oscar that he is Oscar and he is not Oscar. It's unbelievable. Manny is losing a huge, huge payday."

Arum said that Pacquiao had not talked to him or trainer Freddie Roach in two weeks, instead insisting that all communication go through attorney Franklin "Jeng" Gakal and adviser Michael Koncz.

"They represented to me that they did everything short of tying Manny up and forcing him to sign to get the deal done," said Arum, who added that he was willing to take money out of his end of the deal to give more to Pacquiao if that would have helped bridge the gap. "It's really as close to bizarre as anything I have ever been involved in. Considering what the next alternative is for Manny, this is bizarre."

One potential opponent, Arum said, is interim lightweight titlist Humberto Soto, whom Arum promotes. That fight would pay Pacquiao a pittance compared to the estimated minimum $10 million to $12 million he would have made to face Hatton.

"I don't know what really happened here but there are two things," Arum said. "One, Manny didn't really want the fight, which I doubt. Secondly, we all know Manny is a gambler, a poker player. He probably figured if he was strong to the end, they would fold and they didn't.
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ILLUMINATI · Jan 21, 2009

I guess Pacquiao knows beating RICKY HATTON won't be easy at all....god i hope Pacquiao goes on to fight Valero and Marquez and losses to one of them...that would be GREAT!!

LATIN KING · Jan 22, 2009

ILLUMINATI said: ↑

I guess Pacquiao knows beating RICKY HATTON won't be easy at all....god i hope Pacquiao goes on to fight Valero and Marquez and losses to one of them...that would be GREAT!!
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Pacquiao will beat Valero but he won't beat Marquez, he'll get the W though :kick:

TysonFan4Ever · Jan 22, 2009

ILLUMINATI said: ↑

I guess Pacquiao knows beating RICKY HATTON won't be easy at all....god i hope Pacquiao goes on to fight Valero and Marquez and losses to one of them...that would be GREAT!!
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Stop hating son. Hatton is acting like a big baby.

Wiser 1878 · Jan 22, 2009

What did I say?

That little Cambodian prick doesn't want anything to do with a beast like hatton @ 140. It's one thing to take on an old fighter coming down in weight who has one foot in a promoter's suit and one in retirement. Hatton is a live opponent and this little fucker gets it now. That's why Pacqueero isn't signing the contract.

:mj:

ILLUMINATI · Jan 22, 2009

TysonFan4Ever said: ↑

Stop hating son. Hatton is acting like a big baby.
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Hatton has the more money bringing FANS...and is a ppv draw in his home country....Pacquiao has many more fans around the world but do they bring the money to Vegas? can they afford the ppv's?...

Plus Pacquiao is fighting at 140 for Hatton titles....50/50 is fair...

ILLUMINATI · Jan 22, 2009

Caligula II said: ↑

What did I say?

That little Cambodian prick doesn't want anything to do with a beast like hatton @ 140. It's one thing to take on an old fighter coming down in weight who has one foot in a promoter's suit and one in retirement. Hatton is a live opponent and this little fucker gets it now. That's why Pacqueero isn't signing the contract.

:mj:
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Guess Pacquiao isn't no fucking Henry Armstrong after all....:shit:

Mitchell Kane · Jan 23, 2009

BREAKING NEWS: PACQUIAO ACCEPTS EXISTING OFFER TO FIGHT HATTON

By Dong Secuya
PhilBoxing.com
Fri, 23 Jan 2009

Bacolod City -- After a long night and as the sun glimmers in the Philippines' eastern sky Friday, Pacquiao has finally gave the nod to his team to accept the existing offer from the Hatton camp to maybe finally seal the May 2 Pacquiao-Hatton superfight at MGM Garden Arena in Las Vegas. Pacquiao and his team are currently in Manila.

Pacquiao friend and confidant Rex 'Wakee' Salud informed PhilBoxing about the good news. The final financial deal is a 12 million dollar guarantee for Pacquiao and 52-48 PPV share in Pacquiao's favor.

The negotiation has been derailed after Pacquiao demanded a 60-40 PPV sharing in his favor from a 50-50 sharing being stipulated in the original contract. The Hatton camp countered with a 52-48 sharing in Pacquiao's favor and gave Pacquiao a Wednesday deadline to sign the contract. The fight has been called off as of yesterday when Pacquiao refused to budge as both parties issued statements blaming each other for the failed negotiation.

Over 3 bottles of beer
Pacquiao, whose playful antics would create joy and difficulty in his inner circle and this time reverberated into the boxing world by playing hard to get in the negotiation table, told Salud, who does not drink, that he would accept the contract only if Salud will down three bottles of beer. Salud, who had been trying to convince Pacquiao for days to sign the contract, was forced to drink this time around in order for the deal to be consummated.

Salud also informed that Arum was elated to hear the news that Pacquiao finally accepts the deal and that Arum may even come to the Philippines to do the press conference.

The Pacquiao-Hatton superfight on May 2 in Las Vegas is the year's most anticipated fight and is expected to sell out gate and short circuit tickets and break PPV records.
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Of course, Hatton's camp could always say their price has gone back to 50-50...or higher. ::

Xplosive · Jan 23, 2009

This fight is gonna happen. Both guys must realize they cant make as much fighting anyone else. It has to happen.

Mitchell Kane · Jan 23, 2009

Xplosive said: ↑

This fight is gonna happen. Both guys must realize they cant make as much fighting anyone else. It has to happen.
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That, and while everybody wants to talk about Mayweather as an option, I think the people on both sides prefer to take this more winnable fight before entertaining the idea of Floyd.

LATIN KING · Jan 23, 2009

Mitchell Kane said: ↑

That, and while everybody wants to talk about Mayweather as an option, I think the people on both sides prefer to take this more winnable fight before entertaining the idea of Floyd.
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not just Floyd being a harder fight. He will also be harder to negotiate with. He will want the bigger purse against either guy.

Joe King · Jan 23, 2009

Damn. There goes my Vegas trip in May.

KaukipRrr · Jan 23, 2009

LATIN KING said: ↑

not just Floyd being a harder fight. He will also be harder to negotiate with. He will want the bigger purse against either guy.
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If either care about a legacy, what will it benefit either fighter to fight Fraud at 147?... Fraud is NOTHING.. at welterweight,.. absolutely nothing,.. so in turn it means nothing.

sexperienced · Jan 23, 2009

fights back on, pacs gonna sign for the fight within the next 24 hours.:hammert:

Neil · Jan 23, 2009

KaukipRrr said: ↑

If either care about a legacy, what will it benefit either fighter to fight Fraud at 147?... Fraud is NOTHING.. at welterweight,.. absolutely nothing,.. so in turn it means nothing.
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L's typically don't add much to one's legacy..

KaukipRrr · Jan 23, 2009

Neil said: ↑

L's typically don't add much to one's legacy..
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Well I mean, who knows?.. Maybe the ref will warn Fraud about twisting his back and thrusting his elbows?... if what I learned in his first Castillo fight is correct, he turns to JELLY, if he can't defend himself in an illegal manner. When Vic took that point away,.. Fraud look paralised with his gloves up, and lost the rest of the fight.

Fitz · Jan 23, 2009

sexperienced said: ↑

fights back on, pacs gonna sign for the fight within the next 24 hours.:hammert:
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Looks like it:

http://msn.foxsports.com/boxing/story/9123900/Pacquiao-confirms-fight-with-Hatton-%27is-on%27

Fingers crossed, I guess...

Jake · Jan 23, 2009

Caligula II said: ↑

What did I say?

That little Cambodian prick doesn't want anything to do with a beast like hatton @ 140. It's one thing to take on an old fighter coming down in weight who has one foot in a promoter's suit and one in retirement. Hatton is a live opponent and this little fucker gets it now. That's why Pacqueero isn't signing the contract.

:mj:
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you were saying?

REEDsART · Jan 23, 2009

KaukipRrr said: ↑

If either care about a legacy, what will it benefit either fighter to fight Fraud at 147?... Fraud is NOTHING.. at welterweight,.. absolutely nothing,.. so in turn it means nothing.
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Dream On, Kauki...Like it or Not, "Fraud" will Come Back & Demand PARITY w/Manny Pac & 60-65% of the Split w/Hatton...

REED:hammert:

KaukipRrr · Jan 24, 2009

REEDsART said: ↑

Dream On, Kauki...Like it or Not, "Fraud" will Come Back & Demand PARITY w/Manny Pac & 60-65% of the Split w/Hatton...

REED:hammert:
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Yes, "dream on"... you are definitely right about that,..DE-regulation seems to be the American way,.. it is the golden land of oppurtunity....for sociopaths, all the rest of us should do, while we're slithering in the mud, is cheer them on, and mop up the occasional slop of debree, with our whiskery urchin mouths.

LATIN KING · Jan 24, 2009

KaukipRrr said: ↑

Well I mean, who knows?.. Maybe the ref will warn Fraud about twisting his back and thrusting his elbows?... if what I learned in his first Castillo fight is correct, he turns to JELLY, if he can't defend himself in an illegal manner. When Vic took that point away,.. Fraud look paralised with his gloves up, and lost the rest of the fight.
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why do you hate PBF? he is awesome! :mj:

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