Because some of you forget who he used to be...

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Don't have to remind me. One of my all time favorites. :bears:

 

Good to know Whiskey.
Just sucks cuz everyone just sees him as the guy he ended up being, not the true warrior and great fighter he used to be.

 

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The quitter who beat up Tijuana taxi cab drivers!! :bears:

 

You bitch!
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:cheer: Did I mention he was schooled by Whitaker? I am just messing around. I actually like Chavez. I like how he gave slow brutal beatings.

 

Completely schooled by Whitaker, as I now cry thinking baout it....haha
But yes it was great how he slowly wore them down...not a one punch KO artist but enough power to keep ya honest and finally lay you out...and good God the body punching...Jesus.

 

Glad to see you've fully recovered from cancer my friend. It's been awhile.

 

Hahahahaha, you son of a bitch, I swear you are the only one that remembers that I was called Cancer Kid, haha.
Yes recovered quite nicely, thanks.:bears:

 

Chavez was a beast. :fightme:

 

dsimon writes:

Chavez was the archetype for the Mexican way to box.... punches thrown at different tempos the great body game, with the left hook that can double up... and heart to match. Yeah chavez was the man.

 

Chavez is the shit.

One of the best 10 fighters ever.

 

dsimon writes:

Yeah and you simply have to look at his record... I mean his durability is part of his feat. Compared to a guy who is "great" with a 30 and Zip record... opcorn:its almost insulting considering how many fights Chavez had. You can make a case for Chavez being one of the best imo.

 

well we have to be a little careful.

Someone like Ray Leonard, who did not have durability, still holds wins over Benitez/Hearns/Duran/Hagler, and arguably has the best resume ever, based on the quality names.

Chavez' body of work is incredibly strong. Its not just that he was durable, but that he beat hordes of very good/great fighters.

If you are of the opinion that Pernell Whitaker is also a top 10 fighter ever, as I am, Chavez losing to him is not completely damaging to his standing historically.

 

It is a great shame that Chavez has been rewritten as an old crybaby and quitter

He is one of my all time favorites

It may shock people who know me and my love of the legendary "Sweet Pea", but I was rooting for Julio in that fight

He was a masterful fighter in his prime... the real Chavez was the young man we can see picking apart Mario Martinez, knocking the stuffing out of Roger Mayweather, brutally beating the fight out of Ruben Castillo, hammering the tough as hell Jose Luis Ramirez at close range, destroying Edwin Rosario in spectacularly one-sided fashion, roaring back from the brink to stop an inspired Meldrick Taylor (say whatever you want about the stoppage, the comeback was tremendous)

He was a champion into the 90s and still recorded some impressive wins (his 1992 raping of Hector Camacho remains one of my favorite moments in boxing history) but the real Chavez plied his trade during the 1980s, that is when he was at his best, that is when he was hungry. There was no quit in him then, no laziness. He was fire in the ring but with the icey cool of a pure technician...

he was the the living definition of "heavy handed"... in other words, Chavez didnt throw huge knockout punches a la Julian Jackson, where the other gets hit and doesnt feel any pain because his nervous system has been disrupted and he doesnt know he was hit or that the fight is over... no, Chavez was never that kind of puncher. Chavez's punches were extraordinarily hurtful, aimed with precision and designed to cause not the maximum concussive damage but instead the maximum conscious discomfort and pain... he slowly but relentlessly pinpointed his punches to batter the will and energy out of his opponents, like he was torturing them

And what a chin he had! The right hand that Roger Mayweather laid on him in their first fight would have knocked out just about any 130 pounder you'd care to name, it was a bomb and it hit Chavez aquare... most guys would have been on their backs, but Chavez was merely stunned by the punch, regrouped after a few uncomfortable seconds and soon after stopped Uncle Rog... Edwin Rosario was one of the hardest punchers the Lightweight division has ever known and Chavez, despite hsi dominance, was caught with a few hellish right hands and left hooks from Chapo but they had no effect on him

Chavez may have disgraced himself from 1993 to the present with his horrible attitude, lack of desire, poor sportsmanship, sense of entitlement, etc. but it is unfair to use to to denigrate him when he was at his best... he was a truly special fighter, certainly one of the 20 best fighters of all time in my opinion

 

What was your old username?

 

exactly what I'm thinking. duran and barrera comes to mind. it's fun to see how much similiraties these great mexican boxers had in their game.

 

Roberto Duran is from Panama. But I understand mentioning him in the discussion. They were both special fighters and all time greats.

Barrera/Morralez/"El Finito"/Marquez/Sanchez, great Mexican fighters.

 

Duran is 1/2 Mexican

 

:bears: Nice.

 

Thanks, man

 

The Punisher

 

I forget whose schtick that was, might've been Ike that got it going

 

Chavez is one of my favourites. Basically you just saved me having to type anthing other than that. :bears:

 

Thanks, man, I appreciate it

 

It was Ike.

 

Chavez was a great fighter who had a great run.

 

And this is why you are one of my favorite members here, excellent and well thought out post.

 

I remember. :nono:

 

I used to be always called BoxFan, but on here I was the Punisher.