Tua vs Holyfield 1996 sparring footage (preparing for Tyson)

I was, but I knew Petre would jump all over that and get wound up about it because of his Tua man crush

 

:nono: Ruiz....19 seconds.

 

Dude, you dont know the half of it

I guarantee you he would give 1000 excuses for why Tua lost to Lennox Lewis, and the excuses wouldnt include the only real valid one: TUA TASTED SOME OF THAT POWER EARLY AND DIDNT WANT ANY MORE SO HE QUIT WITHOUT QUITTING

 

Ruiz didn't die, which means we were subjected later on to his "reign"

that is Tua's fault, he could have at least killed him

 

I didn't post with you guys when Tua was active. Agreed on the Lewis fight.

 

:: :laughing: Nice! Tua's personal life was a mess. It's been that way for a good 5-6 years now.

 

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It was not unlike Spinks/Qawi

 

good stuff.. I love seeing shit like this

Holy's Traps are ridiculous..

Tua really should have stayed in shape::

 

Was Holy roiding, LOK?

 

I can not say for sure obvisouly..

but in my opinion.. yes.

Holy worked with Lee Haney on his move to HW and put on quite a bit of weight and put it on impressively.. I think to gain the amount of weight he did.. in the time he did it and the way he put it on..and who was his trainer.. I say Yes

 

That wasn't just weight, that was rock solid muscle he put on and not an ounce of fat. Look at his shoulders and traps.
So basically Holyfield is a cheating f*ck whose entire heavyweight career should be called into question. :doh:
How did he manage to go so far in his career, undetected? They already had evidence on him as well recently, listing him as one of several athletes who purchased steroids under the name Evan Fields.

 

Hanzy, do you think our boy Lennox Lewis was roiding when he went from 225 to 250 of solid muscle in the mid-90s?

 

well Hanzy.. I would not say he's a "cheating fuck"

who knows how many people juice?

I do think he did but I know some others have too..

 

No because Lennox didn't put on solid muscle in such a short period of time. If you look at his body in McCall 2, he's big but that's nothing like the ripped physique of Holyfield. You could see the excess weight on Lewis' body. Lennox had weight but not bulging muscles with traps as big as the Hulk's. Plus Holyfield was more of an ecto-mesomorph. He has to train to keep that weight up since he's naturally a smaller thinner guy whereas Lennox has to train hard to keep the weight off. Different bodies.
Inbetween McCall I and Lionel Butler, Lewis went from 238 to 248. But overall, Lewis' weight flucutated a lot. He went from 230(Biggs) to 225(Billups) to 230(Williams) to 233(Dixon) to 227(Ruddock) to 235(Tucker) to 225(Bruno) to 235(Jackson)....varied so much. He never went from 225 to 250 in a span of 6 months. LOL! It took him a few years to get there.

 

True but Holyfield was physically wrestling guys like Bowe and Holyfield and holding his own. Is he really that strong? To be able to hold his ground against guys who are super heavyweights and leaning down on him?
I don't want to talk sh*t about Holyfield because he's one of the all time favourites. Just suspecting that maybe he wasn't as much of a good christian as he claimed. But that's been obvious forever.::

 

You call that defending him ?

Hahaha ... no wonder we have so many disagreements. You don't even understand simple posts like that insult.

 

Hey Einstein ... why don't you do a search of my comments on Tua for the last 3 years ... you may find your foot in your mouth while your at it ... start with the last one that flew right over your head.

 

come on, dude

you have a long history of adoration of Tua

 

Why would you have anything to say about Tua in the last 3 years?

 

C'mon dude ... I never said I wasn't a fan back in the day of a fellow Samoan/Hawaiian in Tua.

Welcome to 3-4 years ago.

I've bashed Tuba ever since for not being able to pass a Burger King without buying all the Whoppers.

 

Thats actually pretty funny::

 

You don't have to be on steroids to be stronger than folks who are "bigger" than you. I'm not saying that Evander did or didn't take do 'roids, but the person who is "bigger" isn't always stronger.

 

I just said he was fat like 3 days ago.

 

:bears:

 

I'm just saying I dont care if he juiced or not::

 

I would think that Holyfield wrestling Holyfield would be a pretty even match.

 

Its Holyfield versus Holyfield from another dimension... the evil holyfield

 

yeah.. come on Broadway..

it was his evil twin brother

 

You mean Unholyfield?