Hey, ease up on Ferdie Pacheco. Who cares if in one fight he referred to Riddick Bowe as 'Ruddock Bowe', 'Riddick Blue' and 'Ruddock Buttock'. Ya gotta love Ruddock Buttock. I guess it's harder than you think to do your job shitfaced. TFK
Very true. I know for a fact from "Cleopatra's Barge" at Caesar's Palace in 1990 that Doc likes a libation. Then at least, Ferdie was a helluva guy if you knew your history and he loved to spin stories of Jimmy Ellis, Jose Napoles, Luis Rodriguez, Willie Pastrano, and other regulars at the Fifth Street Gym. I really don't understand why he jumped on that young man conducting the interview like he did though, and it was not necessary.
Because you say something stupid like tell it to him. As if that old shitbag is gonna whup my ass or something. And its not because of what he did to the interview, its the way he acted towards Joe. He said that gorilla ALi had looked like Joe. He called Joe dumb. Why did he need to say that? fuck him.
Very nice read MTF, just as your previous post is. Ali indeed was very tough on Frazier and ungrateful too because Frazier helped him out. I once heard Frazier saying something like "he called me an uncle Tom but I didn't know what it was. I thought it was something like a peeping Tom"
Pacheco One thing about Doc that some folks here may not be aware of: his daughter, a beautiful, dark haired young lady was engaged to the late Chuck Minker (a lifelong non-smoker) former head of the Nevada State Athletic Commission who passed away in the early 90's from a rare form of lung cancer. Doc has not been the same since IMO, perhaps he had designs on his daughter (who seemed to be a very nice, intelligent, and articulate young person) being involved in professional boxing at the regulatory level. If he said those remarks about Joe, IMO one of the great Heavyweight Champions Ever, bearing resemblance to that rubber gorilla Ali was punching during promotion of the fight, he should issue an apology to boxing. Drunk or sober, there is no excuse for that kind of remark, Doc. Karl Hegman
Pacheco said in the documentary something about how he thought Ali's "gorilla" comments about Frazier were hilarious, and the documentary then cut to a black guy (a writer I believe) saying that Pacheco has no right to say that Frazier should not take it personally when called an "Uncle Tom" and "Gorilla". Pacheco also talked about Frazier fighting so long with one working eye. He said it shows how sick boxing is, and how dumb Frazier is. (paraphrased) "I don't want to be mean to Frazier, but he was really dumb"- Ferdie
:bears: hit the nail on the head... the worst part is he tried to say that is what "some people call him" bullshit I have heard Pernell, Sweet Pea, Sweet Pete, and Pete... thats it "Pee Wee" what a fucking idiot. Stupid, drunk, know-nothing jackoff. Pachecho knew even less about what was actually going on in the ring than Howard Cosell
no doubt.. who in the hell else ever called him "pee wee" :: and Rudduck Buddock is another great one
Its a good thing he's reading this forums to have someone call him out for the first time ever in life. I'm sure he'll be even more taken aback when it comes from the credible source who has, among other things, compared Juan Diaz to Roberto Duran, said, "Chad Dawson is scared of Chris Henry", and the timeless awkwardness when Kermit Cintron made you for the "Amber Alert in waiting" that you are.