Marquez-Mayweather stalled; Marquez dismisses Valero...

baldomir sucks. mayweather shouldve never fought that argentinian sack of talentless turd.

he instead shouldve fought spinks which was the original plan until idiots like dan rafael started flapping his fat gums campaigning for baldomir.

 

the bottom line is PBF has confirmed to the world that he is a welterweight by insisting a fight with JMM be held at 147. and yet he's not beaten a single perceived threat at that weight. many PBF fans claimed that PBF was too small for 147 and that he shouldn't have to face guys like Clottey, Cotto or Margarito - that his fights are with the likes of Hatton and now JMM? And yet he insists on fighting at 147? He's snow-jobbing the world with this act. With the exception of Baldomir who clearly sucks but who PBF didn't look particularly good against by the way, PBF hasn't beaten a single threat at 147.

you have to give him credit for the ODH fight but he barely won it and ODH fought like shit, as did PBF.

 

I have never understood why people think Mayweather barely beat Oscar

I thought he outboxed him clearly

 

all you need to understand is that those two L's stand for Legitimately Logicless

 

Mayweather won 8-4.

He looked shitty offensively though.

 

Cintron was a bigger threat based upon what........
No big name wants to fight Williams, Margarito turned down a career high payday not to rematch him
Margarito hadn't exactly done too much when Floyd was at 147. His signiture win came after Floyd retired. Zab and Bumdomir were both undisputed champs at 1 time. Non of the guys you mentioned can claim that.

 

because ODH landed the cleaner and harder punches, and controlled the pace of the fight. and when he jabbed PBF had no answer for it.

and i don't believe the punch-stats for that fight one bit - for most of the fight PBF didn't get close enough to ODH to hit anything but gloves.

it was a very close fight and it's why there were plans and a demand for a rematch.

there would've been plenty of adjustments ODH could've made in his game-plan that i think would've changed the outcome of the fight. PBF pretty much did what he's gonna do. pot-shot and land mostly on the gloves.

watching that fight it almost looks like ODH let PBF win. it was a weird fight. it was also weird how PBF just kept hitting ODH's gloves.

it was no great performance by ODH but at least he tried to make a fight. all PBF did was shuffle around and hit ODH with pitty-pats one at a time.

 

"Logicless?" :atu:

Clever one Neil. You don't know shit.

 

sure, but he still won 8-4

thats not a close fight

 

um, no

 

ask yourself why PBF would turn down a rematch with a fighter that:

1. He's already beaten
2. He can make more money fighting than any other opponent
3. He will have had the confidence of beating him before
4. He was never hurt seriously by any of ODH's punches
5. The judges seem to buy into his shots to ODH's gloves

why would he turn down such an opportunity and retire instead? isn't that very mysterious? especially the way you've painted it - it would've been free money seeing as how he "easily" out-boxed ODH.

whether you think PBF won the fight or not, I think even in the twilight of his career ODH demonstrated that he has the ability to beat PBF and I think that's as close to a coherent explanation as we'll get as to why PBF would turn his back on a second fight with ODH for which he'd probably earn the biggest purse of his career.

 

I thought Mayweather clearly won a close decision.

 

It's a bitch move on Floyd's part. Shane called him out, offered $8 million and Floyd stayed "retired."

Let's say Floyd goes back to the offer Mosley declined before the DLH fight was made...a bullshit excuse with Mosley being part of Golden Boy,there's no way Mosley-mayweather would have been made before DLH-Mayweather. Floyd knew this.

No matter how you slice it...Floyd's a bitch in this.

 

How Much was Shane Gonna Get???...


REED:dunno:

 

is mayweather getting less than 8 million for marquez is a better question?

what was the upside being offered for the mosley fight?

 

Im sick of the Mayweather comeback already. There was a certain comfort in knowing you could log into a board and the only place you'd find anything about him was in the Mythical Matchups section or the History section.

Reading about him in General turns me back to the dark ages of boxing just past, where great fighters were ignored by fans just to talk about the Mayweather's of the world. :bangh:

 

how close?

 

I had it 7-5.

 

I had it 8-4

he definitley won the fight

 

Same here, 7-5. That was a close fight. Mayweather was ridiculously unimpressive.

Oscar looked as shit there as he did against Pacman, but Floyd simply didn't do much, and hardly took any risks.

 

GOOD NEWS! Just read a report that sources close to the situation have been informed that the Marquez-Mayweather fight is not only close to being completed but that it will take place July 18. They still have not been informed at what weight it will be.

 

That is horrible news for boxing.

 

Why?

 

because it means that PBF is an even bigger pssy than I thought he was.

 

Yeah, I don't really consider this good news for boxing.

It's good news for Mayweather, and only Mayweather, in terms of opponent choice, and it's good new for Marquez in terms of purse size.

Well, I guess if you look at it a certan way, Marquez does have status and some name recognition and some following, so it will have more of an audience than just being a "Mayweather returns" fight against some non-descript opponent....and if Mayweather looks impressive beating someone, even if it's someone he should beat, it'll help rejuvenate his career...and in some sense, that's good for boxing.

But the in-ring match-up isn't one I'd consider good news.

 

Why? Marquez is not a welterweight, that is why. He poses no threat to Floyd and that is exactly the reason Mayweather is after this fight.

Next up for Floyd, Ivan Calderon.

 

Really? How can that be? First of all the weight hasn't even been decideded on yet and to be coming off more than a year layoff against JMM isn't bad at all, especially if it will be at 140.

First I make a thread that Floyd might be coming back against Berto which I criticized and everyone was like "what's so bad about that?" Now I say he's coming back against JMM and say it's good and now everyone's like "that's terrible." :doh:

 

Well, I think the best Marquez can hope for is a catch-weight between 140/147...and I'd consider Berto to be a substantially better fight.

 

Berto is a welterweight title holder. Marquez JUST moved up to 135.

How can you not see the difference here?

 

Like I said, it hasn't been established that this fight will be at 147. JMM said he didn't want to fight at that weight and as long as he sticks to that everything should be good.

Secondly you have to expect Floyd to take a softer touch in his first fight back after such a layoff. Remember, this is Floyd we're talking about, he could have easily taken an even softer touch opponent than this.

To be honest I'm actually surprised he went with this for his comeback, but it's obvious he wants a soft touch AND a big payday. We'll just have to wait and see what weight they decide to fight at to determine how much of a challenge it will be for Floyd.