Marquez-Mayweather stalled; Marquez dismisses Valero...

Just like Floyd vs Margarito would have been PPV and Mayweather would have sold out the Home Depot fighting Mayorga.

Floyd vs Pac is the biggest fight to be made in boxing. Call Pac a lightweight all you want when his last fight was 147 and his next fight is 140.

Also if JMM is a tune up for Floyd after over a year layoff then hes greater then we are giving him credit for.

 

Sure Mayweather should have a tune up....he could pick someone at 147 or at the least some from 140 who has been in that division longer than a few months.......Quintana,Soto-Karass,Collazo from Welter....or Torres, Holt,Witter from 140...

I know a fight vs. Marquez will be view as a better matchup than the fight i mention....but it's not going to be...

Marquez will come into the fight at a huge disadvantage in all categories..except for recent activiy....speed,power,defense,height/reach..etc..will all go to Mayweather..

IMO a fight vs. JMM is another CHEAP way of Mayweather gaining some kinda of recognition....like fighting Bumdomir to become linear/undisputed Welterweight champion....cheap..i bet if those titles were held by Margarito at the time Money would have avoided hm....HERE Mayweather will come back from a year in retirement..and face the #2-3 best P4P fighter in the well...and get PRAISES as some great conqueror for beating him....without mentioning the Marquez was 2 division smaller than Mayweather...

 

coming out of a 1year retirement and fighting a guy @140-147 who has just a 15 months ago was campaigning at 130...and has only 2 fight at 135...yes AWESOME fighter that Mayweather...

really Mayweather is awesome.....reminisce of Leonard coming out of retirement to fight Hagler....NOT...

 

I'm sorry but you either are a hater or just don't know the fight game like you should. There is no way I can consider any of these guys (Quintana,Soto-Karass,Collazo from Welter....or Torres, Holt,Witter) a more respectable matchup than JMM whose skills trumps any weight balancing those guys would provide. JMM's weight isn't that much of a factor that guys like Torres, or Collazo would make a better matchup. And I'm pretty sure Soto fights at 130 or at least is about the same weight as JMM so how come the lesser proven Soto gets a pass but JMM doesn't?

Let's be honest here, you have a bit of Floyd hater in ya don't cha?
You can level with me.

 

soto-karass is a welter/jr middle

 

On fightnight Mayweather probably won't be that much bigger then Marquez.

 

yeah because JMM will have added an unnatural amount of mass and weight to his body and be fighting in a division he's never beaten anyone in.

face it. PBF is a pssy. if you didn't think so before, there's absolutely no denying it now.

he wants his cake and eat it too. he wants to compete at 147, but not face any 147 pounders. it's a scam. i wish he'd stay retired.

and nobody can provide a good reason for PBF's not taking the rematch with ODH. does anyone know why he would turn down a repeat of a match-up that grossed the most PPV $ in history? even if it did 50% as well as the first fight it still would've been the biggest pay-day of his career. so why wouldn't he rematch a guy he already beat? ......I wonder.

 

agree w/ everything u said...but....had Mayweather fought DLH again in a REMATCh...U would have BITCH about it...saying Mayweather doesn't want to fight Margarito/Cotto/Willaims & other top Welters..

I know i would be PISS off if DLH vs. Mayweather II..had happen...fuck that fight...

 

If you don't understand that Mayweather isn't a real 147lb fighter than your more delusional then i gave you credit for.

Floyd weighs around 15-20 lbs less then these guys on fightnight.

 

Then he needs to campaign at 135-140 if he is not a true welterweight....

 

so why does he compete there? what is a "real" 147 pounder if not a fighter who insists on having his fights at that weight?

the fact that he's fought mostly 140 pounders at 147 does not exclude him from his status as a welterweight.

If he's not a real 147 pounder then he shouldn't be fighting there. Especially if he's only fighting guys who are moving up in weight. His two biggest wins at 147 came against Hatton, a guy who had already proven himself to be half the fighter there that he was at 140.

Whether or not he's a "real" 147 pounder in your eyes doesn't mean that if he competes in that division that it should be against fellow 147 pounders.

Imagine if Adamek moved up to heavyweight and did nothing but fight cruiserweights and light-heavyweights?

If he's not a real 147 pounder than he should have no problem fighting at 140 - in fact, he should prefer to do so. And yet, he insists, even against a career feather-weight, to make the fight at 147. He's a pussy. Face it. Sorry.

 

No. I wouldn't have bitched. I would've understood completely the financial motivation for making such a fight. Now. If he managed to beat ODH a second time and then retired, or went back to fighting 140 pounders, as he did, then I'd bitch.

I just don't think he would've won an immediate rematch. I think ODH had plenty of adjustments he could've made, was allowed to fight at his own pace by PBF, and that there would not have been many adjustments PBF could've made. My guess is that PBF realized this and that that is why he turned down the rematch.

But like I said, supposing he won the rematch, but then refused to fight the likes of Margarito, Cotto, Clottey or Williams, but remained at 147, you're damn right I'd bitch.

It'd be one thing if the public had a clue and recognized that he continues to duck legitimate threats, and that his ranking suffered as a result. But this guy intends on regaining a P4P ranking fighting a guy who is moving up two weight divisions to face him? A guy who is already two weight divisions above his best weight? Ridiculous.

 

15-20 lbs less than who?

Sharmba Mitchell?

Zab Judah?

Ricky Hatton?

Isn't Carlos Baldomir the "biggest" welterweight he's fought?