Froch vs the following

How does Froch fare vs Kessler, Bute, Andrade, and Green? IMO:

Kessler TKO 10 Froch: Just way too many tools for Froch.

Bute UD Froch: Froch has a puncher's chance for sure, but I think Lucian most likely schools him.

Andrade decision Froch: Froch wont be able to hurt Andrade. Librado will just outwork him.

Froch TKO late over Green: Theres a REAL chance Green could stop Froch early, but if not... Froch would stop him late.

 

Kessler will beat him pretty easily imo.

I think Froch will beat Andrade, but just because Andrade is even more crude than Froch.

I do give Green a GOOD chance of blitzing Froch early and taking advantage of those low hands, and knocking his ass out.

Bute can probably just dance around all night and win a boring decision.

 

Except for Andrade I agree with you. Froch can take out Andrade. Green has the puncher's chance only.

 

I think Green has the better skills to beat Froch, but I have 2 questions about Green before I'd pick him. First is his chin any good and second, if he's a natural 168 guy? If the answer to both questions is yes I think he'd beat Froch.

 

Green's Fought as HIGH as Light Heavy AND Crusier & Used to Walk Around as HIGH as 200 lbs...As for his Chin, Green's is AVERAGE or Slightly BELOW Average @ Best...Even Tonight, DeLeon ROCKED Green w/a Couple Left Hooks....

Like MOST Punchers, Green is Also SUSCEPTIBLE to Punches....

REED:hammert:

 

Kessler beats him up, in all others I'd pick Froch. He would outwork Andrade, chop down Bute and stop Green

 

Kessler is an obvious pick over him.

I think he'd beat Bute and Green, and him Vs Andrade could go either way, but I'd give an edge to Frock purely by results.

Frock has proved he can beat Pascal and Taylor, better fighters than anyone Andrade has beaten.

 

I thought the left hooks de Leon threw after the first KD were lethal and Green took them fine...

 

Froch loses to all barr Green, in a fight that as most have already said, will depend on what Green can do early.

 

LMAO at your sig

 

DeLeon BUZZED Green Towards the End of Round 1 w/a Left Hook...He was a HURT Fighter after the Knockdown & DIDN'T Have as Much Zip on his Hooks...

REED:hammert:

 

It's refreshing,.. unlike Roy Jones, in his mansion on the coast. Car alarms crow in the morning on Roy's 'ranch', and where Jermaine grows corn and pumpkins to feed his community, Roy won't even go fishing.

 

Where does Green get the rep for being a power puncher. He has some pop, butnot enough to overcome his other glaring deficiencies , chin, heart, skill and talent. He kayo'd Jadon Coddrington who hasn't? Froch would stop Green.If Green is such a puncher, he'd have stopped the chinny Edison Miranda. Instead, he did nothing to even deter Miranda.

 

He DROPPED Miranda in that Fight...Say what U Will about Jaidon but who Else has KO'ed him THAT Quickly???...Bika STOPPED him, but DIDN'T Leave Jaidon N the Same UNCONCIOUS HEAP that Green Did...Green Also has the QUICKEST KO in the HISTORY of the National Golden Gloves...

He Can DEFINITELY Bang...



REED:hammert:

 

I know all that, but so what. He didn't do shit to Miranda. He dropped him and that is all he did the entire 30 minutes. He has power, but he is not a guy like Julian Jackson who was chinny and left people dead. Green's power is not going to help him against elite guys. So far, he stepped up once and put on one of the most disgraceful performances in HBO history.

If he really had Julian Jackson, GMAN, Tommy Hearns type power, Miranda would be a corpse. I will say this though. He is a pretty good finisher, the anti-Jt.

 

You guys are talking like Froch dominated Taylor or something. He was out-classed and way behind on the cards, including having been knocked down, and won thefight in the final round because Taylor can't relax in the ring. He's completely over-rated!!! There's nothing special about him. I wouldn't pick him against any of the guys mentioned.

Also, I find it funny that people are calling for Taylor's retirement because he lost to Froch, meanwhilethe same people are talking about Froch like he's some brilliant fighter.

My guess is his only shot at a long reign is if he takes the Calzaghe or Ottke route and fights mandatories in England for 5 years.

 

Yes...because his mandatories route is such an easy one :boohoo:
(before last night)
[FONT='Times New Roman','serif']1. Jermain Taylor (US)
2. Andre Ward (US) NABF
3. Andre Dirrell (US)
4. Jean Pascal (Haiti/Canada)
5. Karo Murat (Germany) EBU
6. Anthony Mundine (Australia)
7. Edison Miranda (Colombia)
8. Robert Stieglitz (Germany) INTL
9. Sakio Bika (Cameroon)
10. Marcus Johnson (US)
[/FONT]

 

REED ISN'T Saying he's Julian Jackson, Hitman or G-Man (Those Guys were HISTORIC Punchers), but Allan Green IS a PUNCHER...& he's a LEGIT KO Threat Against ANY Elite Supermiddle...REED Can't Say he'd FAVOR Green Over Many of them, but the Dude CAN Punch...


REED:hammert:

 

Bikky would fuck Froch up, now that you mention it,.. hopefully he'll have a voluntary defence in England against our Snakio and hopefully Bikky will bring his wife along too.

 

Kessler would destroy him....


Andrade will outwork hm.....


Bute fight is 50/50 fight...


Froch will fuck Green up....

 

How can the Bute fight be 50/50, yet Andrade outworks him? Apart from the last round Bute dominated that fight

Kessler does indeed smash him though

 

and Dzinziruk?..:dunno:

 

Well, thus far there is no evidence that is true.

1. He has not fought an elite supermiddleweight.

2. He was dominated in the best test he had against a not so durable loud mouth prick who has since been stopped brutally twice, Edison Miranda. I am not saying he is pillow fisted, but he is not a power threat to any mid-level contender. He got an F- in his first test and based on that, I don't see any upside. Especially how little heart and courage he displayed in addition to his putrid chin.

 

REED ALREADY Illustrated the Evidence, Dude...He Almost LITERALLY MURDERED Jaidon in LESS Time than it Takes to PISS...WHO ELSE has Disposed of Codrington like That???...It's NOT like it was a FLUKY KO, the Shit was HEINOUS...& CONTRARY to what YOU Said, Green "Deterred" Miranda by Knocking him On his Ass...U Make it Seem like Miranda Waded Thru Green's Shots like Cotton Candy or Something....

Put it this Way, w/the EXCEPTION of Andrade, NO Elite Supermiddle is Gonna WILLINGLY Get into a Toe-to-Toe Slugfest w/Allan Green...Why, Because they KNOW They'd B Giving him his Best & Perhaps ONLY Chance of Beating Them....

& Not to Make Excuses, but Green WASN'T 100% Against Miranda & He FOOLISHLY Took the Fight @ 160lbs...Allan Green ISN'T Great, but he's NOT as Bad as he Looked Against Miranda Either...



REED:mj:

 

Reed, I really don't think the speed of a kayo means his power is great. Codrington has no chin. The fact that Bika took longer to stop him simply means Bika didn't land a kayo shot as soon as Green did. I think he is sort of like a heartless version of Randall Bailey. Bailey's power never did anything for him at the elite level.

That is the point I want to make. Green is going to get stomped by any decent Supermiddle. His power is great for the Codrington's and Deleon Juniors. Reed he lost every second against Miranda , save for the kd, and Miranda bulled him and Miranda had nothing but trouble making that weight.

 

That's NOT a Bad Analogy, Though Bailey's ALOT More CRUDE than Green Is...w/Out Question, Randall Bailey is/was a TRUE Puncher, whether he Had Success on the ELITE Level or Not...U DON'T have to B Elite or BEAT Elite Fighters to B Regarded as a PUNCHER...Who did Antwun Echols KO on the Elite Level???...Nonetheless, Echols was 1 of the HARDER Punchers of his Day....

On the Flipside, Elite Level Fighters can Have SHITTY Chins, as Tommy Hearns did...Or Julian Jackson to a LESSER Degree...

Miranda May have had Trouble Making 160 for the Green Fight, but he Certainly Didn't MOVE DOWN to 160 OR Fight as HIGH as Lightheavy & CRUSIER, as Green Did...



REED:mj:

 

Froch gets beat by Kessler and Green

He beats Bute and Andrage.

I was on my feet in the 12th round when he stopped Taylor. It will probably be he career defining moment without exception. But if you couldn't see 5 million holes in his skills I don't know who you were watching.

 

No Doubt...

Based on THE WAY he Fights, Froch has an OVERinflated, UNjustified Opinion of his Own Athletic Ability...REED's NEVER Seen a Guy w/Froch's LACK of Speed, Attempting Sooooooooo Many LEAD Uppercuts & Fighting w/BOTH Hands @ his Sides...But Froch THINKS he's Good Enough to Get Away w/It...Thus Far he's Been Right, but it WILL Cost him Down the Road...


REED:hammert:

 

Andrade would wear Froch down and make it ugly in the final rounds. Froch doesn't have the discipline of Kessler to keep that beast off him.