Final Prediction: Ricky Hatton vs. Manny Pacquiao

He can be pretty fucken hilarious,.. especially infront of his Manchester crowd,.. I've never seen anyone so owned on a press conference than Fraud was that day.

 

As said elsewhere, this is an incredibly difficult fight to call IMHO because there is so much we don't really know about both fighters.

Pre-Oscar, I would have picked Hatton to beat Pac in a heartbeat. Not because he's a better fighter, pound for pound (because he clearly is not) but because he's such a bloody big LW. His stamina and punch resistance issues exist primarily at 147- at 140 no-one has even come close to stopping him in over ten years and even now that he is in steady decline I wouldn't pick a single fighter campaigning at 140 to beat him. His fight against Lazcarno seemed to single a man in terminal decline but then he walks straight through Paulie en route to quite possibly his second most impressive career win.

Lets also get something straight here: Pac has proven absolutely fuck all at any weight beyond 130. Diaz is a bum and Pac is so many levels above him that he was expected to kill him (and did) whilst Oscar turned out to be even more shot than anyone could have imagined (or hoped for). For all that I love Manny, and that I have crazy respect for his offensive skills and power, the more detached you become from the Oscar fight the more certain chinks begin to open. He hit Oscar flush and almost at will from first bell to last, and whilst Oscar looked discouraged and took a well earned beating, he never looked in really serious danger of being stopped or even dropped. What comes from that fight for me is the impression that Manny can carry his speed up but I'm not convinced that he has carried his murderous power, and he will need to if he is to drag Hatton out of his comfort zone in a way which allows him to win this fight.

The closer the fight gets, the more I fancy Hatton to pull off the upset, in spite of the fact that Manny is just better in all departments and that Hatton traditionally has fits against lefties. I agree that all this Floyd Sr crap is exactly that- pure crap. Hatton will try to walk Manny down, get inside and unload hooks to the body and the head whilst wearing Manny out in the clinch and on the ropes. I say again: Hatton is a BIG fucking 140-lber and Manny will have never had a guy that big constantly walk him down and try to grind him out. I have no doubt at all that Manny will hit Hatton flush plenty of times, but so did Tszyu and Hatton walked through him. Manny HAS to hit hard enough to discourage Hatton, otherwise he might get himself ground up.

The safe pick is Manny by decision or late stoppage, but I'm growing very unconvinced. There is a very reasonable chance that Hatton wears Manny down and stops him late and the closer the fight gets, the more likely I think that is...

MTF artie:

 

:nono: Whoa.. I must disagree with this,.. Hatton turns into a fleshy grog swivelling tart inbetween fights, that is well known,.. but that doesn't make him 'big' at his fittest weight,.. he has a tiny frame, socketless reach,..and he doesnt even have thick arms chest and shoulders... he's a little come forward bully boy and a ring troll, sure, but he is NOT a big jr welterweight in the slightest... I dont know what you're talking about.. :dunno:

 

You must be mental- Hatton puts on about a stone between weigh in and fight time...

MTF

 

i pick Pac by stoppage

Hatton doesn't even have a right hand

 

He is still usually geometrically smaller than his opponent,.. so one must ask how does he weigh more than them?.. Perhaps he sinks more fluids post weigh in?,.. If we talk about bone and muscle density as to the reason for the heavier weight,.. one must then assume that.. all the smaller guys per division who cant make the weight 7lbs south, have just got to have the advantage in hitting harder, on the account of thier heavier density in muscle and bone,... but that's not the case,.. look at Pavlik,.. he's probably your supreme example for 'clubbing, heavy handed, power',.. but his gigantic frame makes him one of the largest 'middleweights' on the planet, could he have air pockets in his muscles and bones,.. could he suffer from lepracy?.. For boxing especially,.. I dont think 'weight' is a real indication of an 'even size assured' matchup... measurements are.

 

As the fight draws near, I too am more hesitantly picking Pacquiao.

Hatton DOES have the style to make Pacman uncomfortable, rough him up, smother him etc.

And Pacman is probably the cleanest elite fighter in boxing. Never holds, elbows, headbutts, anything, just pure boxing.

Where as Floyd gave Hatton a taste of his own medicine, Pacman won't.

Still, Pacman is just the far superior fighter, he'll be landing that straight left all night and there's only so many Hatton shall be able to take so -

Pacman KO 9.

 

Word. Nobody without a good right hand has given Manny any problems at all.

 

Hopefully the ref lets them fight inside. If not, it will be an easy fight for Manny because his counter punches are supreme. However Hatton's body shots are the thing PacMan is not used to deal with. Hopefully Ricky will have a chance to show them

 

VALID Point...

Even Though it was @ a MUCH Lower Weight (That Pac was STRUGGLING to Make), Manny DOES have a Body Punch KO LOSS on his Record...So Anybody that DOESN'T Think Hatton Will B THE BEST BodyPuncher Pac's EVER Faced is Fooling Themselves...



REED:hammert:

 

I can envision multiple scenarios playing out.

Pacquiao has never been terrific at fighting going backwards and with Hatton's physical style it figures Manny will have to do so at times. That said, even that aspect of his game has improved in recent fights. Most noteably against Diaz he was able to work off the back foot, move and throw combinations in return. That will be vital against Hatton.

Even with some improvements in moving his head more coming in i think Manny is too fast and Ricky will get busted up during his rushes.

The way i see it Hatton will have some early success using his strength advantage to try to wear Pac down and grind him on the inside. However he'll pay the price with counter shots and they will take their toll.

After the cuts/swelling start, Hatton will have a harder time seeing and will get hit more and more often without being able to answer. At that point he'll start getting desparate and lunging in becoming an easy target for straight left bombs.

Pacquiao KO 10

 

Correct. Also, Pac seems to be able to take shots upstairs from bigger men, but it is a bit of a question mark if his frame is ready for them. Also fighting close Pac does not get the leverage behind his punces which ne needs and he probably won't be able to physically dominate Hatton the was Mayweather did

 

Without doubt Hatton is going to be the best bodypuncher Pacman has faced.

Pacman has proven beyond any doubt that his chin is totally solid at the higher weights, compared to when he was a midget.

The question is, what about his body?

I can't recall anyone landing significant body shots on Pacman at the higher weights.

Morales is mainly a headhunter, save the odd jab or straight right to the body, and Barrera was just shut down by Pacquiao.

Marquez? I can't remember if he landed any meaty body shots.

 

This really is an intriguing matchup. Can't wait! :hammert:

 

Agreed, can't wait for this one. Contrasting styles and hard to predict the outcome because of so many variables. Just what i love. :bears:

 

I don't think it's an easy fight to pick at all. There's so many unknowns and I'm not convinced the DLH fight is a good indicator of how good Manny is above 135. Hatton slipped for sure but he's still fast on his feet so I'm not sure Manny will be able to move in and out the way he did against DLH. I'm not sure Manny is a huge puncher at that weight too. Manny will be the faster fighter though but will it be enough to beat Hatton? Don't know...

I'll make a pick because I have to but I'm not confident at all, I'll go with Manny by SD but I wouldn't be surprised to see either man stopped.

 

Other than SACK SWINGERS, Nobody's Calling this an Easy Fight to Handicap....


REED:mj:

 

Exactly why this is so interesting, and i certainly agree many people are putting too much stock in the Oscar victory. Not only was De La Hoya done, but more importantly he in no way resembles Hatton in fighting style.

The scenario i think fits best is Manny's combination of speed and Ricky's tender skin turning things in favor of Pacquiao in the second half of the fight.

 

Or haters.

 

I am brother REED

Hatton's aggression is going to get him cut to ribbons, swollen up and stopped around 6-7

 

I guess so. I really don't see how you can call that an easy fight to predict.

 

You're a sack swinger wrapped in a hater LOK. Reed's still right.

 

So What U're Saying is, U HONESTLY Expect Hatton to B INeffectively Aggressive for 6-7 Rounds, Brother LOK???:dunno:...Even if he Inevitably Loses, Ricky Hatton is GOING to Have SUCCESS In this Fight, Particularly EARLY...It's NOT Like Manny's Gonna DOMINATE Hatton from the Opening Bell or Anything...

NOBODY Has...EVER!!!..:nono:

The SAME Guys that have Been PICKING AGAINST & HATING On Hatton for Years R All of a Sudden Acting like this is an "Easy" Fight to Predict...REED Himself is Picking Pac by KO in the 8th or 9th, but it AIN'T Gonna B Easy for Pac, that's 4 Sure...



REED:hammert:

 

sack swinger of who?

 

Don't try LOK. I got you.

 

Thanks man! I think Pac is the favorite here but your support of him raises Hatton's stocks a great deal. As a result, we should have an even better fightartie:

I like both of these fighters so I wouldn't want either to lose.

 

I think Hatton is a bastard and he'll get busted up and stopped and i'll enjoy it

 

Baron, it's well known you are the biggest sack swinger on here

 

Nah, that title has to go to Bama man, he's sumo sized.

 

well.. ok, but I wouldn't call him sumo sized.. he's only packing a 5 incher