Final Prediction: Ricky Hatton vs. Manny Pacquiao

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  1. Free Ike

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    Please won't you reconsider, PLEASE.


    LOK AND DOUBLE L PICK PACMAN.


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    Pacquaio TKO Rd. 9.

    Usually I go back and forth, but this time I am pretty confident. Manny is going to be too much for Hatton with his speed and southpaw stance.
     
  3. steve_dave

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    Never wrong? You picked Hatton over Floyd. :laughing:
     
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    lol
     
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    Hatton isn't a good body puncher anyway. After Castillo i havn't seen him hurt anybody to the body.
     
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  7. black06

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    Unless Floyd Sr is a fukin genius, gimme Pac Man in a mid rounds KO. :bears:
     
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    2. Utter balls. All this BS about a 'new style' is exactly that: utter balls. If you don't think that Hatton is gonna climb all over Manny from first to last then you are nuts. Hatton is gonna try and drain the life outta Pac from the very second the first bell rings. There is no way,. on earth, that Ricky is gonna try and outbox Manny.

    Moreover, Hatton didn't have a 'non-stop mauling' style as he was 'coming up'. For over thirty fights, Hatton worked behind a hurtful left jab and used his one world class attribute- his superb footwork- to outbox and blast to death everyone he faced. He was an extremely exciting fighter to watch. This 'left hook lead, clinch' bullshit came from the Tszyu fight, where he figured it was his best chance of success and, having paid off, he stuck to it infuriating since. Those of us who knew Hatton pre-Tszyu CONSTANTLY bemoan the fact that Hatton has abandoned his fluid style for this horrible 'hit and hold' policy.

    5. If you though Hatton looked sluggish against Paulie, then you were watching a different fight to me. That was his best performance since Tsyzu by miles...

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    One loss in forty odd fights and he 'doesn't know how to fight'?

    More absolute fucking nonsense...

    MTF
     
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    Your Problem is U're INCAPABLE of Giving Ricky Hatton ANY Credit...To Say Hatton "Isn't a Good Body Puncher" is LUDICROUS, even by YOUR Hatton Hating Standards...Try Watching a Occassional Hatton Fight, Why Don't U???....

    So Because Hatton HASN'T Attacked the Body as Much Lately, that Means he's NO Looooooooooooonger CAPABLE of Doing it???...R YOU Opening Up a BALDERDASHERY Too???...


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    His one world class attribute and a potentially crucial factor. If Hatton gets close often enough he has every chance.

    Good post

    MTF :bears:
     
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    Beat me to it...

    MTF :lol:
     
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    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    That was an absurdly retarded statement even by Double's incredibly low standards.
     
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    Unfortunately i have seen the occasional Hatton fight. Ive wasted hours of my life watching his whack fights.

    All i ever hear is how Hatton is a great body puncher. Like i said who has he hurt to the body after Castillo? I sure don't see what his body punching is based off.

    I can say Manny has an amazing left hand then back it up with fight after fight of evidence.

    I thought thats what great body punchers did, attacked the body. MAB is 10000000x the body puncher Hatton is. He couldn't hit Manny to the body much or hurt him.
     
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    He's had 3 Fights Since the Castillo Fight, Dude...U Make it Seem like it was 5 Years Ago:boohoo:...Why Should POST-Castillo Fights B Any MORE Important than PRE-Castillo Fights, as PROOF of Hatton's Body Punching Proffiency???...It's ALL Proof...Shit, the Castillo Fight Is a SHINING Example N it's Own Right & Like REED Said, that's STILL Fairly RECENT...

    Manny's a SOUTHPAW, so Of Course there'll B MORE Examples of him Illustrating his Left Hand...DUH!!!!...U Say MAB is "1000000x" the Body Puncher Hatton Is???...He's ALSO SMALLER & NOT NEARLY as Strong as Hatton, In Addition to Fighting Manny about as MEEKLY as Humanly Possible...

    Your Analogies R ASSinine, Dude...But @ Least U're CONSISTENT...



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  16. mexican wedding shirt

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    The thing is, Pacman has the fastest feet in boxing. He doesn't APPEAR to be a slick mover in the Floyd mould, but fuck me are his feet fast.

    Hatton does have quick feet and good footwork, he always used it well to zip to the side and setup bodypunches, but Pacman's feet are going to look significantly quicker.
     
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    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    Also, what happened to rjjp4p? He is becoming almost as bad as Double L, literally incapable of seeing things objectively.
     
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    you've just noticed this?
     
  19. Baron

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    He has always been a nuthugger/hater, nothing changed.
     
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    I got only 2 words to say

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    hatton by mauling
     
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    Yep, his marsupial achilles tendons, are the only 'great' attributes he possesses.
     
  22. Double L

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    you can win fights if you're buddies with the referee and allowed to break every rule in the book, tie your shoes when you're hurt, and call for the break when you need it, or let the grappling persist if it suits you.

    no. i haven't seen Hatton's impressive and fluid style when he was fighting corpses and hand-picked opponents, but i have seen him fight against world-class opponents, and when you can't win without looking like shit against Ben Tackie. And he looked like shit against him which is generally an indication that a fighter has very little in the way of skills when he can't dominate an shot Ben Tackie.
     
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    Look, I know you not only lack reading comprehension, but the brains needed for actual analysis of a fight.

    Some guys named Eamon McGee and Luis Collazzo, not world class fighters, gave Hatton hell.

    People are saying "this isn't gonna be DLH" as if Pac didn't beat Marquez 2x, David Diaz, Morales 2x, Barrera in the past 4 years as well. Save Tszyu, who was in against a great version of hatton, before he tried to learn how to box, who has Hatton looked good against?

    The disparity in ability here is tremendous, that people don't see that is...unbelievable.

    This is a 90-10 fight for pacquiao, if you think this is a toss up, you just can't analyze for shit.

    But then again, I was one of at most 3 people who had reasons for picking Pacquiao against DLH, when the masses said DLH's "Size and Power" would be a huge factor.
     
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    Eamon McGee did not give Hatton 'hell'. He gave him a close fight early doors, dropped him with a balance shot and then got the shit kicked out of him for the rest of the fight. I have it on DVD and know EXACTLY how that fight went.

    Gave him hell my arse.

    And as to the rest, Hatton hasn't looked 'good' against many people for years. This is because he has become eyewateringly ugly to watch since 2005. That doesn't mean he isn't effective in what he does though: you don't have to paint pictures in the ring, you just have to win the fight.

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    Man you just don't get it. I was going further back then the Castillo fight.

    What fights before the Castillo fight did he hurt his opponent to the body. Tszyu, Maussa, Collazo, Urango. I remember Zoo and Urango hurting him to the body but i don't remember Hatton hurting them. Surely if he is such a great body puncher he would be going downstairs often and hurting his opponents there reguarly. 1 Fight in 5 years isn't regularly.

    Manny hurts dudes every fight with his left hand. Thats the reason why his left hand is so great and so feared by his opponents. If you can't recognise the difference i feel sorry for you.

    MAB is smaller but he is better, much better at going to the body and a much better fighter than Hatton was or will be.
     
  26. Fitz

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    So go to the bookies for a fraction of those odds and show us your post-fight slip.

    If you even partially believe in your analysis you can't help but score big and show us all your winnings afterwards.

    Look forward to it.

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    huh, why so much anger?

    REED picked Pacquiao to stop Hatton around the 8th or the 9th...

    He just disagrees with your "unbiased" analysis...
    :shit:
     
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    If its biased, there are two possibilities

    I love Pacquiao and not Hatton

    I love Hatton and not Pacquiao.


    If i like both guys, and come to this conclusion, how could it be biased?

    I don't want either of them to lose.
     
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    Remove unbiased from my post and the point still remains.
     
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    I could spend 30 minutes of life talking about how ridiculous REED's "points" are. I refuse to read or respond to drivel directly, if there was a legitimate concern or valid point, it would be noted.

    The same people who had DLH as the favorite against Pacquaio are now making excuses and giving manny 0 credit for that win.

    "Unproven at this weight" is another way of saying "I want so badly for him to lose, that I will do anything to justify it"

    Pacquiao was "unproven" at 135 when he mauled Diaz, "unproven" at 147 when he beat the career out of DLH. How many wins over HOF fighters will it take before Manny gets credit, I simply don't understand the hate he gets and how people in full mass rile against him.

    Because to me, the only way this fight is compelling, is if you hate Pacquiao and underestimate his skills/ability. There is no evidence to suggest he will lose.

    I can get miles of conjecture about his "will", his "perhaps weight adjustment issues", his "perhaps poor skin" (which btw, fights Pac has been cut in is from headbutts, unlike Hatton), Barrera fighting Pacquiao "meekly":atu:

    Its all biased trash. Not a lick of objectivity in most of the anti-Pac sentiment.
     

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