Final Prediction: Ricky Hatton vs. Manny Pacquiao

You didn't say before that your brother agrees with you. Now that changes EVERYTHING...you MUST be correct.

Hang on...I need to give my Grandmother a call to see what she thinks about this topic.

 

Agreed. If the I.V. thing is true, then DLH would have been feeling like absolute shit and certainly not at his best. This would fit with 'shell'.

 

Dude.....Oh shit I said "shell"

are you serious?

WTF we know DLH has diminished, I just don't believe he is completely shot. I think it has more to do with his opponent that night to get completely shut out and stopped in the fashion he did.

 

I don't know what the LOL is all about. If you admit that DLH was a shell of himself, then it's certainly not a reach to assume that DLH's diminished state was a major factor in his loss. I know you are happy that DLH caught a beating and all...but let's not overlook the obvious.

 

the obvious (debatable) AFTER THE FACT.

This is the point of logic, that alot of people don't seem to be getting here.

The whole issue of this thread is your analysis for this fight, BEFORE it happens. Once its over, anyone can give an excuse, or give credit however it fits their agenda.

That doesn't change how poor the analysis was before then, and how stupid some people are.

 

I don't think DLH is completely done, but I am glad he's getting out now as opposed to too late. I know that over time fighters diminish, however styles make fights and pretty much the only fighter who could have shut out DLH that night in that fashion was the man who deserves the credit for it. Pacquiao.

 

Freddie Roach's EXACT Words N Regards to the DeLa Fight, VERBATIM...

"....he Killed Himself Maintaining that Weight...And then, in the Middle of the Ring, I Walk Out There w/Manny & I See the I.V. Marks in his Arm & I See the Fresh Blood, & I Said to Myself 'They Hydrated him After they Weighed him in the Dressing Room.' Wrong Thing to Do. Way, Way Too Late. I Told Manny Right Then, Walking Back to the Corner 'Jump on Him Manny".


Roach Says this Fairly EARLY on the 1st Episode of "Pacquiao-Hatton 24/7"...



REED:hammert:

 

Math is what I know, so let me give you a version of your argument in another case.

4 is a prime, 6 is a prime, 8 is a prime,...

Then, you ask someone who knows something, and they tell you 2 is a prime.

And then you turn around and say "Well if i had known 2 was a prime, I'd never have said those other things"

This argument is isomorphic to your claim.

 

Like REED has BEEN Telling U ALLfuckingDAY Loooooooooooooong, DeLa was WEAKENED & Therefore NATHAN Should B Taken from that Victory, as it Pertains to Pac-Hatton...

YOU Based the VAST MAJORITY of your Pac-Hatton "ANALysis" on the DeLa Fight...FOOLISHLY, REED Might Add...U Even Accused REED of "Subtley" Being BIASED AGAINST Manny Pac but the FACT is, Pac's TRAINER Said that Shit, NOT REED....

U're like a Mixed Martial Artist N the Throes of a SUBMISSION Hold & It's BEST that U TAPthefuckOUT NOW, Jaws....



REED:hammert:

 

see previous posts.

 

You're officially OFF the Hatton bandwagon and NEVER welcome back on. In fact can you put your sunglasssers on, son. I don' t even want them to accidentally get you in a shot.

 

It isn't hard to predict, you idiot! Hatton's going to get in this Cambodian's ass! Early and often!!!!

 

Hatton wins by TKO, but I'm not sure if it is early or late. Probably late. Hatton TKO11.

 

AGAIN, you are the only poster who did NOT send their money from the 2007 March Madness Comp.

You owe me $20.

 

He might not be as skilled a body puncher as a prime Barrera, but Hatton is much bigger and stronger, and you best believe he'll land to the body more than Barrera did.

It actually doesn't matter how good a body puncher Barrera was, he was completely SHUT DOWN by Pacman - come on Steve, you've seen that fight right? I mean he barely landed anything to head or body, he was rendered completely ineffective by the raging Pacquiao.

Hatton is going to land more than Barrera and be in Pacman's face more than Barrera, you better believe that.

 

Of course Pacquiao deserves credit for the win. It is a win against a naturally bigger fighter. No one is denying that. But that doesn't mean that DLH wasn't past it and severely weakened by his efforts to make the weight. Some folks keep trying to avoid this...but it can't be avoided when discussing this fight.

 

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I've been off the Hatton bandwagon since he stopped being a fast, aggressive, exciting fighter and started being a hold and hit specialist.

Hatton hasn't been fun to watch for years, so I'm glad to be off the wagon.

Even if he beats Pacman, he'll certainly deserve respect for a legit win, but I won't hop on the wagon again. Unless of course he looks like the old school Hatton, and doesn't hold ::

 

It's like asking you for a scorecard for Jackson-Griffin a fight your swear that Griffin won yet can't even give a scorecard.

Or asking you for what exactly makes Hatton such a great body puncher. 1 KO vs a shot to pieces fighting for free blown up lightweight isn't proof to me.

 

How about you stick to what is actually being discussed instead avoiding it with this smoke screen? Are you ever going to actually respond to what REED said about Roach's comments regarding DLH and the IV or will your next response be in the terms of the New Deal and its Political and Social Implications?

 

Oh, great. You're just begging for a math lesson from Professor Jaws.::

 

MORE than Enough Other Posters agREED w/REED's Jackson-Griffin Sentiments & to B FRANK, REED DOESN'T Have Enough Respect for YOUR Combative Sports Opinions to "Prove" Anything to U Upon Request...REED'll Kindly REST on the Anal ROASTING he Delivered to U & that Other Scrub, But THANKS for Bringing your MMA Forum FRUSTRATIONS to the General Forum:bears:...

The Same Thing Pretty Much Applies to Ricky Hatton's Body Punching Prowess...Guys that have Watched Him w/Out Some CHILDISH Ass CONTEMPT For the Man ALREADY KNOW he's a GOOD Bodypuncher...

Debating w/U is like Debating w/16 Year Old OR a Young Adult w/Down's Syndrome...U DON'T Know Enough about the Subject to Recognize when U're WRONG, yet U PERSIST N Spewing NONsensical (Rampage Got Robbed::), JUVENILE, HATE or NUTHUGGER Fueled Opinions...


REED:kidcool:

 

so you take the words of a select few idiots and apply it to people who never said those things?

 

:atu: At this forum's "subtle" anti Pacquiao sentiment.

Overall he's probably the most respected, highly regarded fighter on this forum.

Hatton is the one who is more hated, especially by most of the Americans.

 

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Dude, seriously, who are these guys that think like this???

First thing, DLH was cleary an old used up man in that fight... I dont know how anyone thats seen him fight for the past 15 years could think otherwise

Second thing, Manny Pacquiao at 147 is the best southpaw DLH ever faced?? Pernell Whitaker was CHAMPION at 147 for christ's sake... even though he was definitley on the downside, he was still one of the best in the business

let me know what else Pac accomplishes as a Welterweight before you start saying hes "CLEARY the best southpaw DLH ever faced"

and then Jaws keeps talking about REED's point about the weight like its bullshit because REED didnt somehow "foresee" it

Idiotic reasoning

 

Yeah, I find it funny to read Jaws pretend he likes them equally considering his disgust for this supposed Anti-Pac sentiment and total disregard for the Hatton bashfest that is fightbeat!

Unbiased my ass.:boohoo:

 

When Pacquiao first showed his face in the U.S., beat Ledwaba to a pulp and then beat the crap out of Barrera, there were still nay-sayers, saying that he didn't know how to fight and that it was all a matter of circumstance that he had had the success he did.

Then he faced JMM and to an extent his limitations were exposed as far as not being able to fight moving backwards or do much with his right hand. But still, it was JMM afterall. Very few fighters, even in beating him, can manage to look good - the guy is a master counter-puncher !!!

And then he lost a close fight with Morales in which he was forced to wear Winning gloves. I think we saw what a factor that was in the subsequent bouts when Morales, known for his chin, couldn't handle Pacquiao's power at all.

I think it was Pacquiao's two wins over Morales that finally made believers out of a lot of fans who initially talked about him like he was Ponce De Leon or something.

And as impressive as he was dismantling Ledwaba and later Barrera, he's twice the fighter now that he was then as far as having a more diverse arsenal and a better defense.

 

Styles make fights. Pacquiao had twice the speed Whitaker did, much more offense, better stamina, threw more punches, wasn't gun-shy, and unlike Whitaker, controlled the pace of the fight.

Whether you think Whitaker at 147 was better than Pacquiao or not (it remains to be seen but most will probably agree that he is), it has nothing to do with ODH.

 

Have you ever had an IV before???

Do you realize how shitty you need to be feeling in the first place in order to receive one???

This is like picking a guy to win by KO and then he breaks his hand walking to the ring and fails to win by KO and then you come in here saying "HAHAHAHAHAH YOU SUCK AT PREDICTING!!!"

 

Yep...that and completely making up "quotes" are his M.O.