Final Prediction: Ricky Hatton vs. Manny Pacquiao

I'll say this; many people cited the weakening that ODH would endure from moving down to 147 as a major factor in their prediction that he would lose. So I don't think the comparison to breaking his hand on the way to the ring is a fair one. Everyone knew when they made their predictions that ODH hadn't made 147 since fighting Gatti. It was a question of how big a factor it was going to be in his ability to deal with Pacquiao's swarming offense, his angles, and his speed.

I personally couldn't imagine Pacquiao beating him simply due to the size difference. And I grossly underestimated the impact that moving back down to 147 would have on ODH.

 

Its a perfectly legit analogy

an IV treatment is a MAJOR mitigating factor in a person well being, on the same level as a busted hand

unless someone here PREDICTED that Hoya would have a fucking IV treatment on fight night, then simply being aware of DLH not fighting at that weight in some time doesnt cut the mustard

"he may have some difficulty making the weight" is not the same as "he will need Intravenous rehydration"

 

I disagree. And you're wrong about intravenous rehydration. Almost anyone who goes to the hospital is immediately given an IV regardless of their condition. It's not a big deal and it's just a smarter and safer way to rehydrate someone who's dehydrated.

"fucking IV?" You make it sound like he was given chemotherapy before the fight.

Actually, the fact that he rehydrated by way of an IV doesn't suggest anything about the degree of dehydration he was subjected to. It's just a method of rehydrating that like I said is safest and most efficient and prevents bloating, etc.

So the comparison is not fair. It's a giant leap. And my guess is 90% of the people who picked ODH to win that fight would not have changed their pick if somehow they were made privy to his receiving an IV prior to the fight.

More fighters should rehydrate that way, actually.

 

This really is a tough fight to pick. I really want Pac to win, but right now I'm leaning towards Hatton.

 

how come?

 

My guess is that you would be wrong.

 

It's just a gut feeling I'm having really. Hatton will be a lot stronger than Oscar was, even though he is smaller. I just get the feeling that Hatton will use his old mugging style and Pac won't be able to get off like he did against Oscar. I think Hatton will crowd him and wail away on the body and just wear pac out. Possibly even stopping him via bodyshots.

 

My trouble is, that had to be the gameplan against Floyd also. But 2 rounds into the fight, he was already tentative and gunshy because of the counters he was taking on his way in. Manny's hands are just as fast as Floyd's, and IMO you can make the case Pac hits harder. If Hatton fights his old style, he could have success, but its hard to shake how bad Hatton looks against people who give him movement.

 

I go back and forth on this one but I'm leaning toward hatton. It all depends on what happens if Manny can or can't hurt hatton. If Hatton is stunned or surprised by Pac's power early, the fight is over.

I knew DLH was done when Manny hit Oscar with a good bodyshot in round three or four. oscar's foot literally came off the canvas. If Manny hurts Hatton, who enters with the mindset he's the bigger stronger guy, it takes him completely out of his game. With that said, I'm not certain manny handles Hatton's shots. That's the big "if" to me.

last weekend we saw what happens when a physically strong guy continues to land good shots on you.

The main key here will be Hatton's ability to get in and out on Manny. I wouldn't look at the Mayweather fight as any indication because Floyd is a much better techinically schooled fighter than Manny and is typically ALWAYS in position to counter whereas Manny isn't.

It'll be a good fight and I've been wrong in picking against Pacquiao previously but I'm still going with Hatton.

I will say this...if Manny wins and wins impressively weren't seriously talking about an all-time great...possibly a greater career than Roberto Duran. In fact, probably not much of a discussion there.

We'll see.

 

First off, thats nonsense... going to the hospital does not automatically give you an IV treatment

second thing, I will ask you the same question I asked jaws: have you ever been in need of IV treatment or received it??

I have... if you are getting it, you are getting it because you are physically depleted on a major level... and they give you that so you can walk and eat and function... they arent giving it to you so you can go FIGHT SOMEONE

 

.......because you think most people would be as ignorant as cdogg when it comes to an IV rehydration? and the fact that it's simply the best way medically to rehydrate? or because you think he needed an IV because he was more dehydrated than any fighter in the history of the game has ever been prior to a fight?

 

Dude, you are a fucking moron

You dont have the first idea what you are talking about

You are absolutley, positively talking out of your ass

right now, I feel like I did in that thread where several complete idiots (I believe you were among them) were under the totally ridiculous belief that a person could DRINK COCAINE and get real high from it (Pryor/Arguello)

 

which is true. which is why you are a god damn retard much like the butt-buddy clan youve assembled against decency and logic.

Tally-ho you scurvy faggots

 

Its not true

Only a 12 year old fuckwit like you would think so

You have never even SEEN cocaine, I'd bet

you dont know a fucking thing about it, what it does, how it works, or how it is administered

 

what? can't get high from drinking cocaine? where did you learn that? it's certainly not the most efficient method of use, but guess what? it still enters the blood-stream. who's the idiot again?

why do you think drug mules die when their balloons burst?

 

You would fall ill before getting "high" from drinking cocaine ::

 

Offense ok. Speed, no. There's no way on this Earth that Pac is twice as fast as Whitaker. Whitaker was a speed demon. DLH was hitting air. Whitaker also had excellent stamina, and I hope you are not saying that Whitaker was gunshy.opcorn:

 

Unless it loses some of its properties once you dissolve it in water, I think that in big quantities you can have a cocaine high by drinking it Cdogg.

A few years ago, 2 guys died at the airport here when a condom filled with cocaine exploded in their stomach in the plane.

I doubt someone would waste cocaine by drinking it though.

 

they die from stomach/intestinal ailments and bleeding not from an OVERDOSE, you fucking nitwit

You can SNORT cocaine and you can SHOOT it... you can even get a mild affect from sprinkling it on a smokeable substance and SMOKING it... DRINKING it wont do much of ANYTHING because your stomach acids destroy it and dilute so much that by the time it gets to your bloodstream it is weakened to the point of impotence

you would have to dirnk A SHITLOAD of cocaine-laced fluid to get even a mild approximation of the HIGH you get from snorting it... and you would get an awful stomach ache from doing that...

if you could simply DRINK Cocaine, then that is what people would do because it is WAY EASIER TO CONCEAL then spilling it out onto a mirror and SNORTING IT UP YOUR FUCKING NOSE or carrying around a needle and a spoon

The ignorance here is astonishing

 

Drinking cocaine would give you the most unbelievable gutrot. After you snort it, you're supposed to spit out any mucous that goes into your throat afterwards.

Why?

Because it gives you HORRIBLE stomach pain. Drinking it would have a person rolling around on the ground in agony.

 

The guys I was talking about died from heart attacks.

 

And before you ask, YES I KNOW. I tried it when I was barely out of my teens.

 

The only issue I have with this...I read Thomas "Hollywood" Henderson's autobiography years ago and he said he purposely ate his boogers due to the cocaine residue in his nose.

:doh:

 

This is why it's so hard for me to make a pick. I don't disagree with anything you posted. To me, this is one of the hardest fights to pick in a long time. I'm going to wait until the last minute to make an official pick.

I do love this fight though and can't wait to see it.

 

they die from the explosion in ther stomachs and the fact that a totally undigested poison suddenly is just THERE in their stomach without having gone through the digestion process

trust me, you would have to drink a SHITLOAD of cocaine-laced water or beverages to get anything that even approximates the high you get from doing it properly (snorting, mainlining or in the case of crack, smoking) and by the time you drank it, you would have the mother of alls tomach aches and youd be in the ER

 

Actually. Most reasonable (which excludes folks like you) folks would have second thoughts about their pick if they knew that the fighter they had picked needed an IV before the fight.

So you can stick the "ignorant" crap somewhere painful. I find Cdogg to be a knowledgable and insightful poster who is unlikely to write something he doesn't know something about. Unlike some other posters who are usually talking out of their asses.

 

Well, I tried it once, and ONLY once. If he was a chronic user, he might have been jonesing or desensitized...and he definitely wouldn't be stepping into a boxing ring if he had coke in his stomach. It was the WORST stomach ache I've ever had.

 

because he was an addict, and an addict will do ANYTHING for even a remnant of what was there... even if its a placebo

the real action is what he had going with his inhaler during games

 

Pretty much echoes what I thought. I never tried it again, and it's true what they say: you only need to try it once to get hooked!

 

and like Buddy, I too tried a little cocaine in my teens... moreover, I have known several addicts (all of whom are clean now, thankfully) and I have been around the drug... I know how it works

jaws probably thinks you could die from smoking pot


BTW, thank you broadwayjoe, I did not miss your post