THOUGHTS ON THE FIGHT: (COTTO-CLOTTEY)

Cotto - I thought he was going to get stopped again at times in the fight. I still think he is one of the lesser durable top welters in there, but he has the heart of a champion.

Clottey - I abdoned and burned his bandwagon tonight. After rooting for him early I found myself hoping Cotto would get the w by the last rd. Clottey just isn't championship material and has only himself to blame for this loss. In the 4th rd he was winning then backs away for some reason like shades of the Margarito fight and gives the rd away. Then he gives away the 6th rd fighting against the ropes, though I think he did that to protect his injured leg.

What really bugged me about Clottey was his overreactions to the fouls and his attempts to cheapen his way to a win with ref points. Clottey could have won this fight but he just isn't mentally there yet and likely won't ever be. Max said it best, Clottey may have been the better fighter but Cotto was the better man, and I give mad props to Cotto. Clottey can kiss my ass.

The Ring - I believe it was rigged in Cotto's favor. There was a marketing campaign about the new slip resistant shoes Cotto received for this fight. Next thing you know the ring is plastered more than normal with slippery advertisments.

Boxing shoes - Why won't other boxers order these slip resistant shoes that Cotto uses? It isn't like he has legal right to be the only boxer allowed to use them. I just don't get shit like this, it makes no sense to me. Why wouldn't you use the best equipment available if it's available? It's like basketball players using canvas tennis shoes even though todays hoops shoes are available. :dunno:

 

Cotto wasn't as Fluid as previous fights...and was extra slow tonight...his punches were wide, Maybe it was Clottey guard Cotto wanted to get his punches around them...


Tooo fucking SLOW..end of story...no fluidity...

Clottey? Questionable heart....could have won the fight had he stepped on the gas....but he decided to cover up and play around...


Cotto needs a REAL TRAINER...for the first time in his career looked like the Cotto you see training for a fight...slow and too passive..from PR..to Florida..hopefully if he is smart and cares about his career the next move will be to Mexico to train w/ Nacho...esp. if Mayweather beats Marquez...

 

::..they were both slipping on that canvas..they would throw right hands and their back foot would give and the right would fall wayyy short...

 

Well... what are we gunna do about Hops then?.. I say we should admit that he's a piece of shit that ticks every box...

As for Clottey,... it appears...just like Jermaine... he's got a 'glass brain'... .. it's a pity too... because thats a fucking sexy defence he sports..

 

I used to box a while back, and I am not sure I would want sticky shoes in the ring when trying to slip and slide my way around a punch. I might get stuck.

Clottey did not want to take a chance and fought a very good defensive fight, may too defensive though. He would win a rematch imo.

 

I completely disagree. I never saw Cotto slip once, and even if he did, he never slipped as obvious and as badly as Clottey did and I'd have to think that was due to the better shoes he had. Don't try to distort the facts. I may be wrong about the attempted cheating with the ring floor, but I'm not wrong that one guy was more susceptible to slippin than the other.

 

I forgot to mention this. Clottey did something no other fighter has been able to do. He exploited the hole in Cotto's defence better than anyone else has. Everyone knew the uppercut was there against Cotto and Clottey used it beautifully with multiple strikes. Him abdonding that move from the middle of the fight on, is another reason he lost.

 

I want to see a REMATCH!!!!!

Despite the headbutt and the bodyslam and the one fucking shite judge, it was an entertaining fight. I wathced it with two borderline boxing fans and they were into it. I'd like to see a rematch.

 

Where was it mentioned the shoes were sticky? Slip resistant doesn't mean sticky, it means you don't slip on wet surfaces.

 

1st of All, this was a Damn GOOD Fight...Not QUITE as Good as Marquez-Diaz, but a VERY Entertaining Bout...

Cotto DID have that Same Look of DESPERATION that he had in the Margarito Fight, Only he WASN'T Being Pounded w/Plaster Inserts This Time, so he was Able to Shake it Off...Dude has TREMENDOUS Heart...His Left Eye Looked like it'd Been Hit w/a Fucking MEAT CLEAVER & Blood Ran into Cotto's Eyes for the MAJORITY of the Fight, yet he Kept on Truckin'....

Clottey DEFINITELY Overreacted when he was Fouled...Not Really Sure how U "Hurt" your Knee when U're Thrown on your FACE...& the Punch to the Back of the Head WASN'T Hard Enough to Warrant Clottey's Response...Kudo's to Mercante Jr. for Recognizing (& NOT Falling for) Clottey's Bullshit...The FACT that Clottey Even Attempted to Exaggerate in that Fashion Tells REED that he WASN'T as Certain about his Chances of Winning as he Claimed After the Fight...

Cotto had MORE Offensive Success Against Clottey than Anybody REED has Seen...He Landed CRISP Body Shots & Left Hooks All Fight Loooooooooong & his Right Hands BROKE THRU Clottey's High Guard on Occasion...But Having Said That, Cotto is a SUCKER for an Uppercut...& he Needs to JAB More when he's in Retreat Mode....

Overall, DAMN GOOD Fight...REED Wouldn't even Mind Seeing a RE....


REED:mj:

 

F.Y.I., Clottey's Good Enough to COMPETE w/ANY Elite Welter, but there's a MISSING Intangible that'll PREVENT him from Ever BEATING an Elite Welter....



REED:hammert:

 

BTW i don't see how the punch in the back of the head of was an accident. Cotto could see he had his back to him and hit him. That should have been a point deduction regardless of Clotteys reaction to the foul.

 

If he really did twist his left knee it would have affected his footwork in the middle of the ring. An uppercut or even the straight right down the middle relies on shifting the weight fwd onto the left knee.

 

Good post!

 

This is all likely true, but Clottey seemed to be moving fine on the knee during the last 4 or 5 rds. Therefore I think either he or his corner should have made the call to go back to that uppercut. It could have been a huge momentum changer for the fight.

I think Clottey was going to get robbed either way, but with the way he fought, he made it very easy for them to give the fight to Cotto. I don't think Clottey even deserves a rematch but should have to fight his way back into contention.

That said I think Clottey creams Berto, would falter against Paul Williams, and would make a very interesting matchup against Floyd due to his size, strength, and style.

 

Yeah, I have thoughts...

Like how fu*ing biased HBO is towards the house fighter. In some of the later rounds (not the 12th, mind you when Cotto was actually throwing punches), Lamps would talk about Clottey's inactivity, when Cotto wasnt doing anything himself.

Then there was the blatant cheerleading by Manny, particularly the "there you go" when Miguel landed the punch late in one of the last few rounds - one of the only farking punches he landed in the round, which had Lamps/Max gushing that may have won the round for him. Shit, man, score the entire three minutes.

Good fight, though, and really, I thought it could have been one point, either way - or more appropriately, a draw. When you have the frickn Garden crowd silent throughout much of the fight, you certainly havent lost it 115-111 or 116-112.

I will say this, though looking at the scoring it wouldnt have mattered, wtf was Clottey doing in the last round??

:bangh:

 

Also...

It's almost as if in between one of the last few rounds, before the round where Miguel landed the ONE shot that Manny creamed himself (was that Stingless between his legs lapping it up?opcorn:) saying "There you go", he got instructions reminding him just exactly who the house fighter was.

I don't particulary have a problem with the outcome other than the wide scoring, but I could do without the HBcOtto cheerleading.:cheer::cheer:

 

You dont know the meaning of the word bias,.. until you watch one Mundine fight on an Australian feed,... then,.. your last two posts... would magically dissapear.

 

The bottom line is that Clottey doesnt have championship heart. That pretty much sums it up.

 

agREED...

Which is why Lou DiBella WON'T Let Clottey Get Anywhere Near Berto...



REED:hammert:

 

Good fight. I had Clottey winning clearly on my card, and the decision went as I figured it would.

 

I agree. That pissed me off too, but understand Lampley was right. He'd already done an outstanding job of commentating audibly well with Cotto's dick in his mouth, but also made mention of the fact that THE JUDGES would probably give that round to Cotto based on the last shot.

 

Please.

Hopkins / Taylor...and thus, the shuffle of scorecards, should be locked in the drawer from you,... you hurt the sport with your extra terrestrial, ball park declarations.

 

Wasn't Steward laughing at Lampley somewhere in the middle rounds when Lampley was making the case for Cotto?

I guess he wised up by the end of the fight.

 

I thought Clottey won at least 7 rounds.

Sorry to have caused the sport irreparable damage by doing so.

 

Im sorry too man... this anxiety medicine is gooooooooood shit!

 

BTW, how clutch was Kellerman's voice tonight, though?

If only Lampley could be afflicted with that more often...maybe I could hear less about man-love and how boxers honesty with themselves wins decisions.

 

Cotto has great heart, which is good because I don't think that he's all that tough. He has looked fragile down the stretch against Mosley, Margarito & Clottey.

 

I'm surprised most of you like the fight, I thought it was an average fight at best and was pretty dispointed in it ( the first rounds were very good but the end very underwhelming). LB4LB, you are spot on on most of your point

 

Bob Arum made me laugh with his postr fight comments when asked if Floyd could be next for Cotto or Pacquiao:
(Regarding where Floyd Mayweather fits in the mix) “Floyd has a fight coming up with Marquez. Then he’ll probably want to fight Calderon. Floyd just doesn’t fight big guys. Let’s be honest, he doesn’t fight big guys.â€￾::