Pacquiao Vs Cotto, November 14th -Boxrec

I would love for Cotto to prove everyone wrong here but I don't think its going to happen.

For Miguel to win this fight, he needs to bring back his long lost jab and he needs to learn when to clinch.

But I don't see it. This could be the end of Cotto right here.

 

The only way Cotto loses this fight to Pacquiao is if there is a stipulated that Miguel has to totally drain himself to make weight and second if he has to weigh a certain amount entering into the ring. If Cotto can make the contracted weight with ease and if he can rehydrate and come in at his natural weight he's gonna beat Pacquiao. Cotto will not be the 1 demionsional Hatton nor will he be the weight drained DLH. Ya'll gotta remember Clottey is a big strong dude that weighed 170 or close to it entering into the ring and Cotto man handled that dude and for those that claim he don't have any heart shit it took Margarito what 10-11 rounds to stop Cotto with fucking plaster in his gloves. Pacquaio is an all-time great but like the saying goes a good big dude will always beat a good small dude. I'll Holla 5000

 

He's gonna take a shot to the nuts..:fightme:

 

Thats kind how I feel about this fight.. Depends on how Cotto makes the weight... Pacquio will get tested in this fight against a real welterweight.. Not saying he can't win because he can but we should really find out if he can handle fighting somebody at that weight.. But like you said it all depends on the weight he has to lose..

 

Agreed! That's the major factor here. Also they may put up a stipulation where Cotto can only gain so much weight fightnight. The past greats never asked for so many stupid stipulations and catch weights.

 

Clottey went 12 rounds with Margarito and plaster hands.

 

Yes but we can all agree Cotto fought the wrong fight. He was on his back foot way too much and that spent him out in the long run. Shane Mosley laid out the blue print for Margarito.

 

what blueprint?? Catch them cheating:bangh:???

If they dont find those bricks Mosley would have been running not to get KTFO too...

 

Ever heard of Sugar Ray Leonard?

 

You have to actually land punches to hurt someone. Margarito barely landed any clean punches at all. Mosley absolutely abused him.

 

You know that for a fact, huh?

 

No, joke. With the way Mosley beat Margarito, it seemed like even if Margarito had brass knuckles in his gloves he still would have lost. He was slow as fucking molasses that night.

 

I thought Mosley still said something about Margarito hurting him after the fight, but I may be mistaken.

 

Was the blueprint Shane's or Nazim's?

 

Valdarver...haven't seen you in awhile.

Cotto's a short armed guy, but if he stays behind his jab and waits to time Manny coming in I give him a damn good shot. I think he'll catch Manny with something along the way.

if he abandons his jab and is bothered by the weight for 10 rounds it could be a back and forth fight until he's hurt by something he doesn't see.

This could be Oscar-Vargas II

 

Agreed I think the jab will be a major factor if Cotto utilizes it. I hope this shit happens!

 

Yes but then there were guy's like Duran who fought Hearns @160 without all this bullshit catchweight shit. The thing with some of these supposed greats is some of them want to fight the best WHEN THERE OPPONENTS ARE NOT AT THERE BEST. If Pac feels he's the best p4p then he needs to fight Cotto at his best rather then a wekened Cotto.

 

Maybe he was being nice. Margarito probably didn't land more than 5 clean blows the whole fight.

 

:: That was a beating I truly enjoyed watching. I may watch it tonight to relive the experience.

 

Pacquiao is the champ at 140. A weight that he makes easily considering he weighed in at 138 against hatton. Why should he give up 9 pounds if he don't have to? If Cotto wants the fight he will have to make a couple of concessions. If he doesn't like it he can always fight someone else. If they agree to 144, Cotto weighed 146 against Clottey anyways. I don't see much of an effect there. He will still be bigger and stronger and Pacquia will still be way faster.

Regardless, you said that fighters didn't used to do this. Leonard 1 of the greatest fighters ever did the same thing, he made stipulations. Duran-Hearsn? They fought at 154 and Duran had been there for a while. He wasn't moving up in weight.

 

Yeah it was a real drubbing. I am glad Mosley fucked him up.

 

Neither guy will be able to take the others punches good enough to have a Vargas-ODLH type of fight IMO. Personally I can see either guy getting hurt at any time. It's not like Cotto hasn't been hurt early by punches he didn't see against Torres and Corley. On the other side of course Cotto is just bigger and his thudding shots should certainly hurt Pacquiao if he can land clean. Pacquiao will be the rightfull favorite though.

 

Did you saw that 'tale of the tape' in that video? Both have almost identical height, reach and KO ratio. Cotto will NOT be the bigger man. The winner of this bout will depend solely on how Cotto performs: if he uses the jab and goes to the body and returns to the decent defense he used to have, it will be a tough night for Manny. But if the latest version of Cotto (who resembles more Gatti than Trinidad) is the one entering the ring, then you can bet he will be KTFO!

 

Margarito didn't land much but the clean blows he did land did seem to effect Mosley, that is for sure, that is why I don't believe Margarito has used loaded wraps in every fight, he would have a much better KO% maybe the early round blow outs he has gotten but I wouldn't consider the Cintron or Cotto fights where he had them...still a cheating bastard htough.

 

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Cotto is naturally bigger than Pacquiao, it's not even close. When Cotto was weighing in at 140 he was walking in the ring around 157-160. Pacquiao weighed 138 his last fight while Cotto absolutely couldn't make 140 after the Malinaggi fight and fucking killed himself to make it that fight.

 

Effected him how? I never seen Mosley visibly bothered by anything.

 

Not wobbled or anything no, but as soon as he was hit he held on. And after a left hook in particular he seemed phased.
Look I'm not sayin it was that significant but he landed literally like ten clean punches, and it seemed to have power, Mosley also admitted to to significance in Antonio's punches.

 

Well according to the "experts" at the CSAC the plaster mixture didn't harden until the wraps got wet with sweat, so actually it would be just the opposite of what you say. That is, Marg would have more mid-to-late round KOs, which in fact is what seemed to happen, especially in the Cotto fight.

 

Wel touche my friend....touche...