What can he do to land a big money fight? It seems as though no one want's to fight him. Wasnt he offered a fight with Pavlik? I remember reading where the fight collapsed because he demanded more money. But I'm not sure if that was with Pavlik.
To be honest I don't give a shit about Williams. His division jumping makes him more an enigma than an actual player in any one division and it's hard to take him seriously as such. Had he just stayed in the ww division more people would be demanding a matchup against him, but it almost seems that people should avoid him if he can go up to 160 and above at the drop of a hat and hold his own there. He needs to pick a division and fight there IMO because if you're going to come down and challenge at ww then it seems like you're picking on little guys now.
Agree had he stayed at 147...and just kept fighting he would have eventually land a big fight...but this division jumping proves NOTHING...there is nobody at 154 that he can make money with....Pavlik/Abraham are both looking up to 168...so nothing left at 160. If he can make 147..he needs to come back down and stay there...most casual boxing fans...WHO THE FUCK IS PAUL WILLIAMS?
Agreed! If Williams had stayed @ a certain weight class he could have become Mandatory eventually to land a huge payday. I hope he does get a chance though.
REED Actually Thinks the Weight Jumping is HELPING Williams Career...If Not for that,he'd have NEVER Fought Winky Wright OR Gotten a Jr. Middle Title...@ SOME Point, Something BIG is Bound to Happen for him.... REED:mj:
I can't believe some of you rip Williams for jumping divisions. It's not like he went up in weight because he was bored. He went up because he couldn't land a big fight. If he stayed at 147 he would still be defending his WBO tittle against mandatories and challenging everyone and their mother.
agREED... Instead of Sitting Around CRYING, Wallowing in Obscurity, Williams has INCREASED his Standing in the Sport & is Now Arguably a Lb 4 Lb'der...All Because of his Weight Jumping... REED:hammert:
Williams has talked weight jumping around, but all he's really done is fight at jr mid for the past three fights after making welter a year ago. Unifying belts makes people take notice. It often makes sense to discard belts and go after money fights, but that's not an option for Williams. Trying to unify the belts is.
Williams Fought Andy Kolle AND Winky Wright ABOVE the Jr. Middle Limit...Those Bouts SANDWICHED the Title Winning Effort Against Phillips... REED:mj:
So that isn't what he did against Winky Wright? There were champions in multiple divisions willing to fight him. But of course it's smart for Williams to fight in multiple divisions, because among the things it does is multiplies his options.
that guy is a ghost as far as I'm concerned. he's had zero fights on television here so i'll believe he exists when I see him. he's been rumored to fight here a few times and its yet to come to fruition. williams needs exposure and that means fights on television here. clottey is a willing foe and williams could impress by beating him more decisively than anyone else has.
He's been rumored because he's openly stated he'd defend his title against Williams - who was his mandatory - in the States and it's been Williams who has gone other directions. But Williams could get on television here fighting him. Clottey was a willing foe when he was still a champion and BEFORE he lost to Cotto. That fight smacks of leftovers now, especially the way Clottey finished the fight (even if some, like me, still had him winning). At 154, that fight is useless.
That will be a very interesting fight. I want to see how well Williams reacts if he gets caught flush by Cintron.
its hardly useless. a win over clottey means more for williams profile than beating a wbo champ few have seen. especially if and when williams wins decisively. the fight should be at both guys best weight. or at least williams second best weight.
Williams' profile is enhanced by beating a guy who has no title at 147, let alone 154, and who's coming off a loss, than beating one of the best, if not the best, jr. middleweight champions? Maybe Williams enhances something by beating Clottey, but it ain't his profile.
Clottey's Coming Off a DISPUTED Loss, Mitch...A Guy who's PROVEN to B a VERY TOUGH Fight for ANYBODY (Margarito, Cotto, Zab, Baldomir)...Beating Dzinziruk would Enhance Williams TROPHY CASE, but that's about It...By Comparison, Beating Clottey Gets Williams CLOSER to a BIG MONEY Fight... w/Out Question, Clottey is MORE of a KNOWN Commodity.... REED:hammert:
Big Money fights are at 147....if Paul Williams wants that..he would need to fight Clottey at 147...not 154...:dunno: Why would Clottey go to 154..?
Williams vs. Cintron would be an excellent fight. Cintron's mental toughness will definitely be tested in the face of William's massive punch output, and William's chin, once again, will be tested, as he isn't exactly a defensive genius. Williams would probably view it as a "stay busy" fight, but I think it'll be closer than people might expect, and I wouldn't rule out the upset. Thing is, Williams has been stepping down on his punches more as he's moved up, so there's always a chance he'll score the knock-out. I think that'd make a satement, if not enhance his status all that much. As for Cintron, if he could beat Williams, he'll have gone a long way towards redeeming himself, and only the most synical fight fan would continue to not believe in him. Good fight for Cintron. Probably not so good for Williams except to stay busy and get paid.
How? What exactly is Clottey bringing to the table in a fight at 154? Or even at 147? Is he suddenly going to be putting asses in seats after losing to Cotto? Beating Dzinziruk would give Williams a good claim at being the #1 at 154...a distinction Williams has never had in any division.
CLEARLY, Clottey is More of a KNOWN COMMODITY in the Boxing World...If Williams Became the 1st Guy to DOMINATE him, that'd B a HUGE Feather in his Cap...BIGGER than Beating Some Anonymous Beltholder (Whether he's Actually GOOD or Not) in a Fight that May NOT Even Get Televised in America... Shane Mosley's the # 1 Guy @ 147 & Where is that Getting Him???...He's MUCH More Known the Dzinziruk... REED:hammert:
Who are we talking about here? Williams isn't drawing mainstream fans to either of those fights. But Dzinziruk shouldn't be anonymous to boxing insiders. Clottey is a nice fight for Williams, though, a defense-first guy with selelctive punch output and a habit of fading down the stretch. Williams will probably earn more points for missed punches that Clottey gets for landed ones. Clottey has no chance of winning on the cards...and I can already here Lampley talking over the action. Should be fun.
The Dzerno guy beat Santos. And from what I hear pretty convincingly. I can't think of too many guys who have done that. That alone should put him a step above Clottey as far as a feather in William's cap (should he manage to beat him of course).
williams doesn't need to impress boxing insiders. he needs victories and exposure so that a wider audience sees what he can do. going to europe is not the answer.
No, Williams Isn't a "Draw", but he's @ Least on the RADAR & ARGUABLY a Lb for Lb'der...The Weight JUMPING & the Winky Fight have Been POSITIVE Steps Up...Clottey's as "Hot" as he's EVER Been @ the Moment...A Week Removed from a CLOSE Fight w/Cotto...If Williams Manages to Get him in a Ring B 4 the End of the Year, that'll IMPROVE Williams' Status even More.... Clottey's Been on American Television MORE than Dzinziruk & his Resume is a Little Bit Better...Unifying Against Dzinziruk Would Mean about as Much as it Did when Wlad Unified Against Chagaev...Not Saying that Fight SHOULDN'T Happen, but REED Can't See where it would even SLIGHTLY Increase Williams' Chances of Landing a BIG Fight... REED:hammert:
