The "Chris Arreola BLOWS" Bandwagon...

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  1. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    I can honestly say I wish actual bodily harm on every one of these fat, sloppy, apathetic losers. Pain and suffering. The fate of the fat bastard in Seven for instance would be highly appropriate...perhaps even too good for them.

    If you aren't interested in being a good boxer or in showing the sport the respect it deserves then FUCK OFF and find a career better suited to your temperament! Computer programming or as a guinea pig in medical experiments for example
     
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  2. Slice N Dice

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    Arreola is shit. Fucking cack. I would sigbet anyone here that he doesn't beat either Klitschko brother for the remainder of his life
     
  3. TKO

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  4. Hex-One

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    Add me on! This guy seems out of shape in all his fight's. It's just a matter of time before he gets KTFO. Like you mentioned, I hate watching out of shape Heavyweights fight.
     
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    add me onto this bandwagon as well, please. this guy is a disgrace
     
  6. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

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    Exactly...

    ANYBODY Can Look Good & Throw "Combo's" Against what Amounts to a PUNCHING BAG...& the Undeniable FACT is that Arreola is Showing Up in Worse & WORSE Shape w/Each Fight....His FANS Care More about his Boxing Career than He Does...



    REED:shit:
     
  7. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    What was this clip supposed to show? Arreola was sloppy, he leans in leaving his head wide open when he throws body shots, he got tagged clean by "bolo" a bunch of times and was even bothered by a shot to the body. He threw a thousand punches with Bolo on the ropes and couldn't stop the guy?

    That's what I saw.
     
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  8. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

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    But he was only CHUBBY in that Footage as Opposed to the LARDASS that he is Today....Doesn't that Count for Anything???...



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  9. salaco

    salaco Undisputed Champion

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    word, i was too lazy to post it, but that clip was hardly highlight reel stuff :lol:
     
  10. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I've never seen that fight before and haven't seen much of Arreola, but he is said to have some power. When I saw who he was fighting in that clip I fully expected a HL reel KO and all I got was bum fights. :lol:
     
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    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Congrats on winning the prediction contest. It't not official yet as the results havn't been posted but it's pretty safe to say you won. Nice job. :bears:
     
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    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    Well, at least you admit it.
     
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    Lol its more than met the guy, he helped train me, he is a bit of a friend.
    But yeah I know that it blinds me sometimes.
    And the clip was to show his combos...nothing else...and his handspeed was quite nice.
    I'm not sayin he beats either Klitschko but he will grab a title.
    And also...it just saddens me that you guys look at his appearance instead of what he is doing in the ring...the guy is undefeated and just KO'd McCline in easy fashion even if past it...no one else has done it like that...
    It just makes me sick...
     
  14. Mitchell Kane

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    He's got a decent left hook.

    His right hand doesn't impress me much, in almost any variation it's thrown.

    I think the criticism is about a lot more than just his physique, but it's really sad for a fighter, who is limited, to not even get the most out of his abilities and give himself his best chance in the ring by stepping into it in shape.

    Arreola's been getting some pretty easy set-ups and he can't even impress in those....and his performance obviously suffers from unnecessary weight, as any boxer's would whose carrying that much extra weight.

    The comment about McCline....should be ignored as that from a fan.
     
  15. Beyond the Grave

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    If he gave a shit about his career I would root for him...but,he doesn't so put me on REED
     
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    That post I can respect, that is criticism he deserves.
     
  17. mexican wedding shirt

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    Well in regards to me personally, I have never even mentioned his weight/appearance. People like Toney have taught me to look past that in some exceptional cases.

    I am judging him purely on ability.

    Can he fight? Of course. But at world level he's really not that good.
     
  18. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Toney was an even worse example, because he completely let himself go as a heavyweight.

    But if you don't think the added weight hurt him, watch the John Ruiz fight...after viewing the Jirov fight.
     
  19. salaco

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    Cheers!
     
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    Well, I didn't go into detail. But basically, in the end of course it hurt him.

    But to an extent, Toney got away with it purely because he's such a skilled, talented fighter.

    He looked like a little ball of shit even against Holyfield and Ruiz, but he was able to beat them, and that says enough as it is.
     
  21. ElTerriblee

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    Odlanier Solis called and he wants to ride shotgun.
     
  22. ElTerriblee

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    He got away with it, because he took performance enhancers for stamina. Once he stopped he struggled to beat Danny Batchelder.
     
  23. Double L

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    I'd just like to remind everyone that boxing isn't a body-building contest. And that there's been plenty of fighters with impressive physiques who have just plain sucked. Likewise, there's been plenty of heavyweights without impressive physiques who have been dominant champions and contenders.

    Sometimes, bulking up too much can hurt a fighter's stamina. And also his quickness.

    Look at Povetkin. The guy has seemingly endless stamina and yet to look at him you'd think he didn't lift a finger in the gym. Along those lines, does anyone really think it would help Fast Eddie Chambers if he had a body like Holyfield's?

    Even Lewis, one of the best champions in history, wasn't particularly "cut" during the best period of his career.

    And what about Chris Byrd? You think he would've been as quick as he was had he spent his time in the gym weight-lifting?
     
  24. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I'm not really sure what this post is meant to get at, but none of it gets around the fat that Arreola weighs too much and hurts his performance in the ring.

    Regarding Chambers, maybe his "Fast" start lasts longer against Povetkin if he's in better shape.

    Maybe David Tua and Samuel Peter remain relevant in their careers if they were in better shape...not to mention put on better performances than they did against Lewis and Vitali, respectively, among others.

    Povetkin is in much better shape and conditioning than Arreola.

    And Lewis must've been cut, his was one of the first bodies I can remember the members of the HBO announce crew commenting on.

    Lampley, for example, was particularly enamored by it.

    Chris Byrd purposely put on weight to fight as a heavyweight...but he always kept it in check, and he had enough athletic ability - among other attributes - to offset some of the added.

    Arreola doesn't.

    Weight lifting and road work are two different things.
     
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  25. Double L

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    Weight lifting and road work are two different things.

    Exactly. Which is why I don't cite Peter or Tua as examples. And it's why Chambers may not look particularly impressive but have stamina that is perfectly adequate. Are you implying that his fatigue against Povetkin was because he wasn't in shape? My guess is it had more to do with the punches Povetkin dished out for 12 straight rounds.

    And Lewis certainly had an impressive physique early in his career, but later in his career, some would say during his prime, it was not the case.

    Another good example is Larry Holmes.

    I don't know if the principle applies to Aereola or not, but I do know that Hispanics tend to be less genetically predisposed to having bodies like Holyfield or Frank Bruno, even when they are in perfectly good shape.

    Again, it's not compulsory to be a smart ass when responding to other people's posts.
     
  26. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Eddie Chambers' stamina is perfectly adequate for what, a main event on Friday Night Fights?

    He was tired a lot earlier than the twelfth round.

    What are Lewis and Holmes doing in a Chris Arreola thread?

    Arreola has neither the size nor the jab to make them even relevant.

    It's nice to use a fighter's heritage as be an alibi, but I'm not sure that's why he hasn't broken 250 - let alone 240 - in a year.
     
  27. ElTerriblee

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    I agree, but for him that means weigh in at 230 and not 250. If Travis Walker wasn´t chin and brainless he would have kept Arreola at the end of his jab for 12 rounds. It was really counterproductive for him to hurt Arreola and go for it. He should have Wladimired him. And that´s excatly what will happen, if he steps up, all the fluidity in his combinations won´t help him, if he is too slow to get in punching range and will be picked off repeatedly. His chin isn´t even good, which only makes matters worse.
     
  28. steve_dave

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    If Tyson could get back with Rooney and start training hard he'd be the heavyweight champion of the world again.

    You're my boy, but you admit to being a blind nuthugger when it comes to your favourite guys (Gatti, JMM etc..)

    Your opinion on this matter, unfortunately, is not relevant.
     
  29. steve_dave

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    Name one "dominant champion" at heavyweight who looked 1/10th as disgusting as Arreola.
     
  30. steve_dave

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    Did Double L just use this guy....

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    ...as evidence that this guy....

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    .... shouldn't worry about his weight?
     

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