Honestly, I don't know. In the USA, Joppy might win on points. Basically, they are both shitty fighters. In German, Joppy loses on points and gets 5 points deducted for phantom fouls. Howard Eastman beat ABRAHAM in my view and he was a sloth with gloves. I think based on Joppy beating Eastman he would probably beat Abraham. Honestly, having champions (even fake beltholder types) like Joppy and Abraham is a disgrace to the sport. Both are awful, awful fighters.
I think Joppy was the worst middleweight belt holder of all time. Abraham is no all time great, but he's a few levels above what Joppy was. Abraham via late TKO.
Abraham would win a clear decision. Not a shut out because he's too sporadic and Joppy could box a little, but I think he'd put enough hurt on Joppy to have him on the run for the last part of the fight. A late stoppage is not out of question either.
Yes. He was better than either Abraham or Joppy. This is why I question Bhops greatness. Middleweight as been absolute shit for years and that includes Taylor and Pavlik. I actually root for Pavlik but he is not very good. He is however better than the rest mentioned above, except Hopkins obviously::::
To me, Holmes and Joppy arent really distinguishable from one another as far as being "good"... they both were paper belt holders and nothing more... neither defeated much in the way of quality opposition
Dunno, X...Was Joppy worse than Hacine Cherifi or Julio César Green? Joppy was nothing special, but I suspect if we looked into it we would find more fighters who held a belt who were not better than Joppy.
Well it is all nuansed argument. To me, the middleweight divsion has been total shit since the Brits and the likes of Toney, Nunn, Mccallum moved up or retired. It is no shocing at all that Hopkins could rise under such conditions. I still think it is funny that Jermain Taylor was the best Middleweight in quite a few years to come up and he beat Hopkins twice. Truth be told, Jermain Taylor is only slightly better than the Holmes' and Joppy's. It is very hard to make heads or tails of it. There have been some awful champions at 160 since the late -90's on.
It was almost sad to hear Joppy say he wanted to be like SRL before getting in the ring with Trinidad. I'd find myself always wondering what would've happened had Tito fought Joppy fair and square but then I remember his fight with Hopkins in which he sustained a horrible beating with terrible swelling all over his face. As visciously as Tito knocked him out, one could make the argument that Hopkins' torturing him for 12 rounds was even worse. If there were any possibility ODH could get up from that body-shot, and I'm not convinced there was, it was the Joppy fight going through his mind that kept him down.
