So Cheato fought Mosley without illegal wraps and Cotto WITH illegal wraps???

Was he caught BEFORE he fought Mosley? So why wasn't he immediately disqualified?

 

:: Plaster of Paris was found in Margarito's wrap before the MOsley fight....nobody knew what it was but he was force to re-wrap...and we are assuming he used it for Miguel Cotto fight which at the time was a much bigger fight/threat that a fight vs. Mosley who everyone thought was DONE....

 

He wasn't DQ because nobody knew what the substance was......there was a hearing a few weeks/month later and he was suspended along w/ his trainer...

 

false. he wasnt dq'd because like everything else money makes the world go round

 

I still wonder if the outcome would have been any different against Marg. Cotto fought a stupid fight.

 

Cotto would have still tired in the late rounds, but win a decision...

 

Would have,could, should have blah,blah,blah. It's Cotto's peoples job to watch Margarito wrap his hands. If they didn't do there job then that was there own fault.

 

I might add that there is no evidence that Margarito cheated in his fight with Cotto. NONE. I laugh at the fact that in many people's minds Cotto did not really lose.This is false. QED. Margarito savaged Cotto(as I predicted) and that destruction is legit until proven otherwise. I would also gladly dismiss the loss if there were any evidence to do so.

 

I guess Shane roided up in every fight he's been in, Vargas too. Tito also really lost every fight he's been in because of the 55 layers of gauze around his knuckes were illegal. That thinking is well, dumb as shit.

I heard that Cotto didn't even send anyone to check Margarito's handwraps, if that's true, that's on him, what a dumbass. He's Puerto Rican after all.

 

I agree he fought a excellent fight for the first half of the fight. But I still have doubt in the back of my mind. , I need to see Cotto fight him again to see if he has what it takes to win it.

 

What utter bullshit. Margarito bloodied Cotto's nose and hurt him in the second round. Margarito might be average, but he is just flat out better than Cotto.

 

The Plaster Inserts were Found JUST BEFORE the Fight...There was NO Time to INSPECT what the Inserts Contained @ the Time, so they were CONFISCATED & We Eventually Learned the Truth Weeks Later.....



REED:hammert:

 

Cotto Went 11 Rounds w/a Guy w/LOADED Wraps...& Even Then, Cotto TOOK a Knee Himself, it's NOT Like he was Stretched Out on the Canvas...Margarito STILL Would've Finished the Fight Stronger, but his Punches WOULDN'T have Taken as Much Out of Cotto OR Ripped his Skin Up as BADLY as they Did...

Cotto Would've Survived & Won a CLOSE Decision...SPLIT or UD...



REED:hammert:

 

agREED...


REED:hammert:

 

Yep...


REED:hammert:

 

That DOESN'T Justify Margarito's CHEATING Though, Val...U're ALREADY ALLOWED to BASH the Other Guy w/Your Fists...So LOADING Your Fists is UNacceptable...


REED:nono:

 

Well, On THIS SITE ALONE, No MOre than 5-10 Peeps PICKED Shane Mosley to Win & Margarito was on a CAREER HIGH...Margarito had VIOLENTLY Stopped a Guy that had just BEATEN Shane Mosley & as YOU Said, Mosley Even STRUGGLED to Beat a SHOT Mayorga...

MANY People even Picked Margarito to STOP Shane Mosley...So WHYthefuck would Margarito All of a Sudden Choose to Cheat Against Shane & NOT Cotto???...CLEARLY, Cotto was Considered MUCH MORE of a Threat to Margarito PRIOR to Both Fights....Cotto was THE Most IMPORTANT Fight of Margarito's Career AND a Bigger Threat...

It DOESN'T Take a Mathematician to Add it All Up & Conclude that Margarito MORE THAN LIKELY CHEATED Against Cotto, @ Best...@ WORST, he DEFINITELY CHEATED & Took YEARS Off of Cotto's Career....

Either Way, FUCK Margarito...



REED:shit:

 

It isn't true. Rewatch the fight. Margarito hurt Cotto in the second clearly. I know because I went nuts and pointed out that Cotto probably had a broken nose. The fact is Margarito shocked almost all of you with an upset and now you are looking for a reason the prediction was wrong. THERE IS NO PROOF DIRECT OR CIRCUMSTANTIAL THAT MARGARITO CHEATED IN COTTO FIGHT.


So if this is your "evidence" it is easily proven false because Margarito hurt Cotto with the first shot he landed in the second round and Cotto was bothered from the start by Margarito.

That said, if any real evidence came to light I would believe it. I don't think for a second that this is the first time Margarito cheated.

 

Dude, Cotto MIGHT Have Lost 1 of the 1st 6 Rounds...Margarito was CLEARLY BEHIND @ that Point...& Even After Finishing Stronger & DROPPING Cotto Twice in the 11th, the Fight would have Probably Been Scored EVEN Heading into the 12th...

Saying Margarito is "Flat Out Better than Cotto" is Almost like Saying Librado Andrade is "Flat Out Better" than Lucian Bute....


REED:mj:

 

Big Deal...

& Cotto was REPEATEDLY Dropping 3 & 4 Piece Combo's on Margarito...Margarito ABSORBED More than a Sponge in the Middle of the Ocean....U're Pointing Out ONE Punch in ONE Round & that's Supposed to VALIDATE Something???....



REED:dunno:

 

I don't agree with that. I thought the HBO coverage was at best dishonest. Margarito was making Cotto run in fear from the start. I totally disagree that Cotto was ever way ahead. I should get some credit by now about all things Cotto. I have stood against the masses, the HBO hype machine, the internet hype machine and have looked pretty good. Cotto is a good fighter, but he is not even near great or dominant. Too me, he is an undersized welter with poor stamina and average power.

It isn't like I hate the guy or diminish him. I even said there was no way Clottey was going to come away with a win. Cotto is just not an elite guy. Maybe on a bad night he gets by Margarito in a rematch and controversially. He isn't beating elite guys like PBF or Pacman.

 

The "Cotto Conspiracy" is forwarding a myth that Cotto was taking the punches fine until his "alleged cement wraps" hardened and then Cotto couldn't take Margarito's punches. That just isn't true. So I guess now you guys will move on and create a cement wrap from the start myth anything to make your prediction correct when it wasn't. It was dead wrong and the "so far from elite" Margarito legitimately stopped Cotto until proven otherwise.

Margarito is just better at Welter. He isn't better in a p4p sense, but P4P is bullshit.

 

HBO's Commentary NEVER Influences REED's Opinion, Dude...If U Gave Margarito even 2 of the 1st 6 Rounds, U're Being VERY GENEROUS...Cotto Never HURT Margarito, but he was TEE'ing Off on him Early...When a Guy REPEATEDLY Hits U 2, 3 or 4 CONSECUTIVE Times, U're NOT Winning that Round....Sorry...

Just Because Cotto was GIVING Ground DOESN'T Mean he was Losing...He BADLY OUTLANDED Margarito in the 1st Half of the Fight but Again, he was just Unable to HURT him...



REED:mj:

 

NEWS JUST IN- MARGARITO REALLY BEAT SHANE!!!!!

If your caught cheating and that means that you have always cheated, Shane was roided up vs Margarito.

Shane took away Margarito's cheat, so Shane was the only one cheating in that fight.

This means a Roided up Shane beat Margarito and this win shoud be discredited and voided because without the Roids, Marg kicks his ass obviously.:notallthere:

Wow.

 

Dude, U've Pointed out ONE Punch in ONE Round (Early in the Fight) that Alledgedly Hurt Cotto...& Even Then, Cotto Wasn't BADLY Hurt or On the Brink of Being Stopped or Dropped...

Until the LATTER Rounds, Cotto was Taking Margarito's Shots WELL Enough to where it DIDN'T Look like he was in ANY Danger of Being Stopped...It WASN'T Until Around the 8th, 9th or even LATER that U Got the Sense that Cotto was on the Verge of Being STOPPED...


REED:hammert:

 

I agree with your conclusion. Fuck Margarito. He should be banned for life.

I don't think it was the first time Margarito cheated. I don't think the fight is any evidence of Margarito cheating. Cotto at very best has a shaky chin and I am not surprised Margarito stopped him at all. There is no evidence that Margarito cheated in his fight with Cotto none. Cotto as nearly stopped by a Columbian cLUB FIGHTER in Torres and was hurt 15 times by Zab Judah. In fact, there was no evidence BEFORE the fight that Cotto could take Margarito's shots which is why I predicted he would get stopped. All there is is innuendo and that does not constitute proof. I don't think anything in the fight shows any suspicion that Margarito did cheat.

 

Why couldn't Margarito hurt Cotto smaller and lesser fighters have. Fuck, Cotto has been hurt and atleast 5 of his fights badly. Why is it so unbelievable that Margarito could hurt Cotto. It isn't. You guys are acting as if Cotto is David Tua. The guy was stunned a half a dozen times before that fight and was seconds from being stopped by a club fighter in Torres who has since never demonstrated any kayo power in the states.

 

Torres & Judah R BETTER Punches than Margarito...Power has NEVER Been an Asset of Margarito's...If Anything, TAKING the Best Shots of Torres & Judah Actually HURTS Margarito's Case for NOT Cheating Against Cotto...



REED:kidcool:

 

I just think you and the others might not of thought of it in the way I did and I think I am making a legitimate point. Cotto is not guy with a good chin. Regardless of your feelings on Margarito, he does possess the power to hurt Cotto legitimately. I think Cotto's chin is a major flaw in the argument by the Margarito cheated crew and it is not one that can be dismissed.