So Cheato fought Mosley without illegal wraps and Cotto WITH illegal wraps???

The plaster makes the fist harder, that is the function of plaster. They do not do it to add weight.

Heavy handed is a term not the weight of ones fist.

I'm done responding to stupid shit now. Carry on with your crazy talk.

 

Good job Karl Jr. I would whoop you like a heavy bag.

 

So you think heavy-handed is not a literal term? You're nuts!

And calling me Karl Jr.? Come on man. That's a low-blow.

 

Well then don't assume shit about me like Karl does about people. And no I don't think heavy handed is a literal term.

 

'Heavy handed' has nothing to do with the actual weight of the fist. That's just silly.

 

Okay. Then where do you suppose the expression comes from? Or refers to? Do you think Foreman doesn't literally have heavy hands? Or Rosario (his fists incidentally are a full inch large than Chavez's according to their pre-fight statistics).

Do you think that fighters with hands that are relatively heavy wouldn't punch harder than a comparable fighter with lighter hands?

The term may be thrown around carelessly now, but at its roots was a literal reference to the weight of the fighter's hands.

Are you going to tell me next that quick-handed doesn't literally mean a fighter has good hand-speed?

 

Heavy handed is not a literal term ignoramus! It means when the dude hits you it's likely going to do damage, they have never weighed a fighters fucking hands dingbat.

 

So if a fighter is called "Iron-Chinned", does that mean he actually has iron in his chin?? Or how about China-chinned? Does that mean he has a chin like Jet Li??

 

China Chin = Got more Chins than a Chinese phone book.

Also see, Butterbean Chinned.

 

Does Butterbean-chinned means you slip punches well?? How about Ham-fisted?

 

Ummm...you might as well have cut and pasted this from a Karl posting....

"Z, you've obviously never hit a bag, let alone boxed anyone"

 

So why then do we associate the term, "heavy-handed," with a fighter who punches hard? Why not call him "light-handed?" And who said anything about weighing hands. But they do or at least used to measure fist size as part of the tale of the tape. But I guess that was all for nought since according to you it has no impact on how hard a puncher can punch.

 

You're an idiot.

 

Don't get all mad and start insulting other people because nobody agrees with you.

When people say a fighter has no heart does he litterally have no heart in his chest? :flip:

 

Poor Double. :crying::laughing:

What about Feather-fisted? Does that mean you punch like Big Bird or Donald Duck?

 

First of all...that's what Double always does but then :crying: when folks do it to him.

Secondly...I was gonna use that one next. But I was gonna throw in the Tin Man from the Wizard of Oz. ::

 

You guys are trying to say that all boxing expressions are either literal or a figure of speech. You're saying they cannot be either. Why can't one statement (like a fighter has no heart) be a figure of speech, while another one, like he has heavy hands be literal?

Your counter-examples do nothing to prove me wrong. Your just citing statements that aren't literal - it doesn't mean heavy-handed can't be.

And actually, feather-fisted, although its not literal, does imply that a fighter's punching power is a function of the weight of his hands. And so how could heavy-handed not be literal?

Hands of stone? That's not to be taken literal. But it sure's hell implies heavy-hands and who's nick-name was it? A guy known for his punching power.

To listen to you guys there's no expressions in boxing that can be taken literally. Doesn't that seem a little silly to suppose?

How about a pressure fighter? Is that just an expression, not to be taken literally?