Adjeho surrendered. I will pray from now til it is signed for a Valero fight to be made. If Demarco lasts 3 rounds with Valero, I'll praise Karl for his objectivity.
Good win for Agbeko. It seemed Vic's punches (when they actually landed) couldn't even flinch Agbeko. Whereas Agbeko's punches were wearing down Vic from around the 4th round,onwards. Maybe Vic's power isn't efective at this weight?
LOL at the 46% Showtime pollsters who voted that Vic would capture more than four division titles!:atu:
I don't know why, he has that weird ugly crab style and acts like an asshole, but I like Darchinyan. So flawed though. Leaps inside and gets caught with that left hook, which got him laid out before, and was caught repeatedly with the straight right hand. Nonito would handle him again in a rematch. On a side note it was kind of cool seeing Jake's name on the press row scores, even if seeing his score wasn't so much.
How can you land 90 to 100% of every right hand you throw and not hurt a chinny guy. Don't mind me. The fight was a typical garbage midget fight. The only reason I like Vic D is because he actually fights like a man sized fighter. In this fight, moving up, he had no power like most midgets and it was awful watching a gutless pigmy land 2000 flush shots and not hurt VIc for a second. Midget fights are awful and like I said Vic was entertaining but not at that weight.
"Flim flam" I bet the Urban youths you idolize would make you fifth on the suck train if they heard you use that. I never claimed I didn't watch fights below featherweight, illiterate. I said no matter what happens it is meaningless. No one in the world ought to care who the best 118 pound man is except you because it is one of the few times people care about someone your size, you smart mouth little runt.
you're a fan of that little armenian mutant and he got thoroughly whipped, so you didn't enjoy the fight. hardly surprising. you have still yet to explain what makes agbeko gutless or without balls, you simpleton.
I did illiterate. He didn't even try to knock Vic out. It is boring. The guy landed 1500 clean shots on Vic and Vic still came forward. How can you hit a guy at will and not even try to stop him? You are only defending him because to you this is like uncut cocaine for your "unique" taste. You slobber over any black cock you see even though in the USA their wonderful blackness is polluted by the white man's seed. You just love the fact that this little pygmy could give you a dose of straight Chocolate cream into your eyes. Don't take it out on me that you were born a tiny little yid. Not all us have race dismorphia.
I don't see the connection to him being "gutless." If he doesn't have power that's one thing. He stuck to his gameplan that was working ala MAB vs. Hamed. I was impressed with Agbeko and the way he neutralized Vic's power from the first round on. Even when it looked like they were just brawling, Agbeko was doing some excellent work. Those shoulder feints had Vic wasting his energy coming fwd and punching air over and over again.
i still don't understand how that crab beat Mijares. i guess he was just too strong. but don't let anyone fool you. Vic doesn't know shit about how to box. all he does is load up like a fool and hold his left elbow out like a fucking crab. i can't decide if he's a gerbil, a mouse, or a rat. ah, definitely a rat.
yeah. i guess schooling Arce at this point in Arce's career, and given his height at that weight class should not have counted for as much as it did in our collective assessment of Mijares. but i am pretty sure Mijares was a big favorite against Vic. i could be wrong but i know i personally expected him to out-box Vic just as he had Arce. but as crappy as Vic is, Arce's not much of a boxer either. i think in both cases, they're in deep trouble when they're in against guys with significant height advantages. i just thought Vic with his charging style and loading up was tailor made for Mijares' counter-punching but he Vic was able to stay close to him somehow. I think Mijares under-estimated him.
Hey, styles make fights and this lose to Agbeko shouldn't have so many people all of a sudden claiming Vic isn't good and wondering why such and such couldn't beat him. Look, Vic isn't the most technically sound boxer, but his style can be effective. Agbeko's style just gave him fits but I'm not even sure if that was all because of Agbeko or maybe if Vic also had an off night. I know Agbeko was moving his head constantly but I've never seen Vic's timing and accuracy off that badly. Some of the shots he threw seemed like they were off target whether Agbeko moved his head or not. I'm not taking anything away from Agbeko he had a great performance, but I'm not going to take anything away from Vic either. He's proved to be a very good and possibly future great fighter.
He's been knocked out cold and soundly defeated on points before registering a single notable win. I "guess" he could be a possibly future great fighter, but by your criteria that would mean almost anyone who's shown some potential against mid-level opposition could be a future great. I guess anything's possible. But you have to recognize that Vic's stock has dropped mightily. I mean. We're not talking about ODH losing to Hopkins here. Or even Mosley losing to Forrest. This is a guy who happens to have knock-out power (at least at 112) making him a popular TV fighter, but it's not like he's accomplished much that you can minimize the significance of the losses he's suffered. I'm all for his moving forward with his career and proving me wrong, but like I said, I think the gig is up on this crab-walking rodent. The guy's just a bully, and bullies always end up with their confidence destroyed. My guess is he won't win another significant fight his whole career. But that's just a guess.
I think the Arce fight was his single notbable win so far. If the situation were reversed and Arce had beaten Vic had then moved up and fought and lost to Agbeko then we'd be sitting here talking about how much Arce isn't as good as we thought. As soon as a guy loses a fight we immediately start picking apart his past wins. It happened to Hatton too when he lost to Pacquaio. This is one good thing about MMA over boxing. Losing is acceptable there and pretty much has to happen to all fighters. So you don't have the super shock during loses or the overprotection and/or overrating of undefeated records.
arce is a drunk and he's been finished for a few years. if he'd have beaten the mutant rodent it would have been an excellent last stand type victory but agbeko wouldve crushed him.
I'm completely with you on the over-emphasis the sport puts on undefeated records, and the damage that a loss can do to a fighter on his way up, whether he's really good or not. But I'm just responding to someone's saying he could turn out to be a future great fighter. My point is, I don't think it's the case. I think besides losing two fights (forgivable), it's the manner in which he did so. He's just not very good if you ask me. And I don't see him getting better. Actually, as he moves up in weight it will be harder and harder to imagine his beating anyone who's any good. I know what you're saying about records. That fighters, real fighters, have losses on their record. I agree with your point there. But it doesn't mean that the losses and the manner in which they came are irrelevant in evaluating a fighter. ODH lost to Trinidad. OK. Did it mean his career was over or that he no longer received exposure? No. Forrest lost twice to Mayorga of all people. He's still around and held in high regard. I guess at the end of the day, the best you could say for Vic at this point is that he has a lot to prove.
Jeez, nobody roots harder then me to see the Crab-boy get KTFO or beaten badly, but I'm having a hard time getting excited by Agbeko's performance. Somebody else mentioned Freddie Norwood, and it fits. The guy is a billy goat and a cancer on the eyes. He punches wide, he falls in and he's just awful to watch. I guess he's talented because he moves his head as he's falling in to avoid counters. I didn't enjoy that fight at all. :dunno:
