In hindsite I don't think Floyd ever planned on making 144...I think he thinks he's like Oscar and people should be glad to be fighting him at any weight.
You can only boil that large rangey muscular frame of Fraud's down for so long, a good 6ft give and take. If it wasn't for Hopkins brilliant innovation to capitalise on general groupies fondness of mythical p4p lists which subsequently dawned the new era of 'catch-weights' "the future of boxing" deemed by some respectable american scribes then, Fraud, would have to fight opponents closer to his size.
Mayweather is an asshole....but if he struggle to make it to 146 then the fight might get interesting if it goes rounds.....but i think Mayweather didn't even try to 144...he probably said..ohhh 600K that ain't shit....cause he is stupid like that... If Pacquiao beats Cotto...and a fight is made w/ Mayweather, hopefully Pacquiao just to fuck w/ Mayweather makes him come down to 144, each pound over will cost Mayweather 1 million $$$$....:crafty:
It's mostly speculation trying to figure out exactly how or why this happened, since the "story" is now that the contract was oh so subtly changed at the last moment to reflect the "new" not-so-catchweight, which of course really only helps out one fighter, doesn't it? Why in the world would JMM ever initial (knowingly) a change to an ALREADY signed contract which allows his opponent to take a few extra "free" pounds that Marquez himself doesn't even need? Unless significant $$$$ passed JMM's way, this is nonsense and inexplicable. However, to the larger point - is Floyd pure evil? I mean, doesn't the guy have a good bone in his body? He handpicks smaller opponents and negotiates catchweights beneficial entirely to himself, then fights "safety-first" the whole damn fight, barely decisioning even washed up knick-knacks like ODLH. He constantly spouts his mouth off about how great he is, yet apparently will never take on any serious contenders/champions in the divisions he campaigns at. He spews his bile about how he's "money" Mayweather, and how his "shit is paid for" when actually he's damn near out of money and basically has borrowed for everything he has from house to car to god knows what, and worse yet he doesn't even make the damn loan payments on the shit he has. He beats up on his girlfriends, constantly hangs around with a posse of degenrates to stroke his ego, and despite all his "money" he consistently makes outrageous racist statements about how he is held back and treated like a slave by the white man's system. Now to make it all worse, he can't even make one of his own contrived catchweights, and so basically says fuck the weight and comes in heavy, now citing some bizarre unknown contract allowance. Oh and by the way, just because he can barely make 146 doesn't mean he will every actually fight anyone top 10 at WELTER. No, no, he needs a catchweight for that. Or better said, his opponent needs a catchweight for that, he comes in wherever he wants. If Mayweather's "please hate me, I'm the world's biggest asshole" routine is just an act - then bravo, Floyd, you are worthy of awards. Because the asshole role just FITS you. But if as I believe, it all comes quite naturally, then here's to hoping one of those smaller, overmatched opponents knocks him brutally unconscious. People of all religions should unite in a common prayer, someone's got to listen, even Chinus Maximus is worth a shot. Seriously - Floyd fans. How can you be a Floyd fan and not feel like a sucker, sullied and dirty?
Do U Personally KNOW Any of the Guys in Floyd's Entourage???...WHY Does the Mere Sight of them BOTHER U???...This was Marquez's Catchweight ALL ALONG..."Ya'll Musta Forgot" that Marquez is the 1 that Initially PURSUED this Fight, NOT Floyd... As for Being a Floyd Fan, REED is PUT OFF by Much of the Same Stuff that Puts U Off about Floyd, but Ultimately, REED Only Gives a Shit about Floyd as a BOXER...IN THE RING...REED Doesn't Care if he's a Swell Guy or a Good Samaritan Outside of it...If U Delve Deeeeeeeeeep Enough into ANY Fighters Background, U"ll Find SOMETHING that Puts U Off, INCLUDING Beloved Fighters like Gatti, Vernon Forrest & Arguello... REED:mj:
Nice post chap, as usual... it is ofcourse not an 'act' , the 'role of PLAYING the bad guy' is a political twist from groupies designed to lessen the impact of his anti-social behaviour and general conduct, it's a service motion of 'muddying the waters' on behalf of him,.. Fraud undoubtly shows flagrant sociopathic symptoms, he is chronically self centred, his mind is clearly devoid of any empathy coupled with a marked lack of intelligence, so he isn't capable of 'masking' his perverse motives.
It NEVER Ceases to Amaze REED how Some of Ya'll ALLOW Floyd to INFILTRATE your Though Processes...U Guys Invest MORE Emotion Into HATING Floyd than ANY of his Fans Do in LIKING Him... Considering the Level of VENOM he Generates, Floyd's OBVIOUSLY Doing SOMETHING Right...There'll B THOUSADS just like Ya'll @ Floyd's Funeral, to APPLAUD his Death... REED::
I see Fraud as part of the planet's most destructive enemy, across the world, of all races, religions and intellectual abilities,... when you identify a 'person' as a sociopath, you can't be suprised by anything Fraud says or does, he is a symbolic reminder of the challenges that ordinary folks of this world face in identifying and containing these parasites into the future. America, thanks to the contribution of 'conservative scum' ..is a somewhat safe haven for Fraud and his ilk for now,.. hopefully Obama (:: who Fraud fucking endorsed) ... can pinch some of Fraud's evapourating pennies, and help create a stronger structure to quarantine the likes of him.
Not very professional of Floyd, but I doubt he planned on making the catch. He figured one more card to stack against peepee man to make it even.
Why do I have to personally know someone to criticize them? Don't their actions speak louder than their words anyway? REED, do you personally know all the fighters (or their associates) you've ever criticized? Also, I totally agree that you can find good/bad in any fighter, or any human being for that matter, if you delve deep enough.... ...but isn't it odd how with some people how you barely have to scratch the surface to find a shitload of things that put you off? To you and Barristan... why does my critique of Floyd bother you so much that you have to resort to retorts like "well you don't personally know them" and "you act like he raped your sister"? Aren't those the sort of things you say when you really don't have anything of merit to say in response? It's hard to justify being a fan of someone as shitty as Floyd. Why don't you two just say it aloud? I promise you that you'll feel much better as soon as you do.
Because I care about what happens in the ring. Floyd is one of the greatest defensive masters of all time. Like it or not.
Floyd is a punk for not making the weight. Ultimately I do not think it will make a difference in the fight but if you sign a deal to make a certain weight you should have the common decency to make that weight and honour the contract.
Fraud can gobble my turkey flap. Chinus wont interfere with this mismatch because we used all our credits up for the Hatton annihilation. I suppose alternatively we could always pray to god?.. and if he doesn't deliver, then he doesn't exist.
U Said Floyd Surrounds Himself w/"Degenerates"...What EVIDENCE Do U Have of this????...w/Out KNOWING those Guys or Spending ANY Length of Time w/Them, what Qualifies YOU to Make that Supposition???...CLEARLY, YOU'RE More "Bothered" Here than REED or Barristan...That's YOUR Prerogative, but Please DON'T Try to Turn This Around... U ALLOW Floyd to Occupy a COLD Place in YOUR Heart...That Go's MUCH Deeeeeeeeeeper than just Boxing, whereas REED ONLY Cares about Floyd Mayweather the FIGHTER...When he's NOT Fighting, REED Couldn't Care Less about him, Honestly... REED:mj:
I just watched a video on ESPN and seen again how ignorant and cocky PBF is. He needs to get KTFO! I appreciate his skill but he is a straight up ASSHOLE and I hope the mother fucker gets KO'D DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I SERIOUSLY HOPE JMM LANDS A HAYMAKER FROM HELL AND TAKES PBF HEAD OFF FOR THE COUNT.
There are large weight discrepencies in fights all the time. Some guys put on a lot more weight than others by fight time. It's really a non-issue at this point. The real issues are Mayweather's been off a long time, while Marquez has been active and is fighting at or near his best. This fight was postponed because Mayweather injured himself training. Now Floyd can't make weight. Punching pads on 24/7 doesn't mean he's looked good in sparring or his timing is right. People have always assumed Mayweather will come back exactly as he was when he left. But he's arguably never fought anyone as good as Marquez is right now in his entire career, and Floyd probably won't be at his best. I just think Juan Manuel has taken this fight with Floyd at just the right time.
Max K said that Floyd agreed to pay $600,000 and never attempted to make weight for a competitive advantage. He also brought up that Marquez has better conditioning then many of Floyds recent oppoents.
I don't think this means anything.. Floyd and crew prolly did not want to drain him.. he is ALWAYS in shape and looks to be as usual