Did Floyd look too good in terms of PBF-Pac?

Was PBF too far superior to market the upcoming fight?

Pacman has looked great lately, but Floyd just shut out his great rival, without letting Marquez lay a glove on him in progress.

Was this performance so good that people won't give Pacquiao a realistic shot now?

 

I would pick Mayweather over Pacquiao...even if he beats Ko's Cotto....

 

mayweather would physically dominate pacquiao. due to pac's aggressiveness, mayweather might land enough to stop him in a brutal fashion.

 

nah, everyone knew ( save the same jokers who always pick the fights wrong and some good posters who will look back at it in shame ) Marquez wouldn't be able to hurt Mayweather, thus he had no chance. Pac can

 

Pacquiao will have the same height..and reach disadvantage Marquez had and just like everybody else Manny will be hitting Mayweather shoulder and gloves. Marquez landed a few precise right hands and left hook...I doubt Manny could do that...

 

Mayweather just made Marquez look like an amatuer with a 21 Month layoff. Just 18 Months ago JMM beat Pac imo.

 

I also thought Marquez beat Pac....but was that at 130 or 135?

 

I think with tonight's post-fight fiasco, Shane Mosley just got himself a fight with Floyd.

 

LOL weight had nothing to with that. JMM could fight Pac at this weight and give him hell. He couldn't land nothing on Floyd.

 

Right on. Totally agree.

Pac is too small for Mayweather. Mayweather is a true welter (can't even reasonably make 144 anymore) and needs a size advantage to beat skilled, aggressive, pressure fighters like JLC was and Pac is.

Pac will suffer from all the disadvantages JMM did tonight, and despite having a perfect style to beat Floyd, he will lose because he is just too small.

 

Shane Mosley has a 40% chance to beat Floyd. Thats as close as you will ever get unless you put Tommy HHearns into a time machine.

 

keep in mind however, that at this stage Pac is bigger than Marquez. Pac's optimum weight is 140 at this point and has faster hands and will be physically stronger than current JMM. Pac can do better against Mayweather.

 

but could Mayweather do what he did to Marquez tonight at 130-35...Mayweather would beat Marquez...but it won't be as dominating as what happen tonight...

 

I think its just shameful that Floyd didnt call out Mosley when it is official that Mosley is the #1 welterweight by virtue of beating the best welterweight at the time they fought.

 

mosley would whoop mayweathers ass

 

Pacquiao would have an 6-7 inch reach and about 2-2 1/2 height disadvantage...and is a sucker for straight punches..proven by his fight vs. Marquez...

Another problem for Pacquiao is what to do with Mayweather once he gets inside? As soon as the bell rang for Marquez vs. Mayweather everyone easily saw the size difference....Pacquiao won't be able to clinch, push Mayweather off nothing, he won't be able to put his arms around Mayweahter to turn him like he did other opponents.

Plus he is fighting someone with better footwork than himself...not FASTER...but better...

 

In his prime he probably would have. Now, he has no chance. Don't be fooled by the Margarito fight where the styles suited him perfectly

 

pac would ko pbf if he comes at the agreed weight

 

I wasn't too impressed with Floyd. During the fight I found myself getting pissed because I couldn't help thinking how much he was bullying JMM by having him fight at this weight.

I think Manny would do a lot better for several reasons. Manny isn't nearly as slow as JMM so Floyd wouldn't be slipping and dodging every fucking punch that Manny throws. Some will get in. Also Manny's style won't allow Floyd to just sit back and only fight when he feels like it. JMM allowed Floyd to do whatever he wants because he's a counter puncher. Against Manny Floyd will have the pace dictated to him rather than by him. I'm not saying Manny will win but it won't be a shutout like tonight.

Floyd wants his cake and eat it too. He wants to fight top fighters but doesn't want to feel any pain. That's why he picks a guy like JMM who isn't a big puncher. I'd love to see Floyd fight Shane over anyone else because Shane is the guy who's going to make Floyd feel some punches be it to the head or body or both. It's time we see Floyd dig deep and prove he's a great fighter. I'm salivating at the next match because this one was actually easier for him than the ODLH match.

 

I think it would have been no different. JMM's main problem wasn't size it was the fact that he was too old, slow, and just couldn't solve Floyd's defense. It also didn't seem to help that they made no preparations for JMM to use a little side to side head movement so he wouldn't have to eat Floyd's jab all night long. Fucking Mexican fighters. You'd think they'd employ some kind of fucking defense.

If Floyd wants to continue to be a take the easy route kind of guy I think Cotto would be the easiest match for him out of him Shane and Pacquiao. He needs a guy who punches slow so he can slip and counter and Cotto is just slow enough (of hand & foot) so Floyd could dominate him too. Floyd should be praying Cotto wins that fight because it's the perfect guy for him to continue his masquerade.

 

In order to beat Floyd, you have to have a "range" advantage over him, meaning that you have to be able to use the jab effectively to control the distance.

When Floyd controls the distance, he's gonna have an easy time getting in and out as he pleases. If you allow him to get in and out, nobody has a chance to match legs with him.

Its really simpler than we are making it out to be..... a bigger guy can beat him using his size.

 

Theres only 1 fighter in history that I can think of at welter who i know for sure would beat him andd that's young Tommy Hearns.

 

I have no doubt the Paul Willams that decisioned Margarito could do it with the style he used in that particular fight.

I don't think size and reach is all you need. I think a guy like Mosley could do it if he went in with a game plan to constantly come forward with good head movement. By pressuring Floyd and not letting him get set and fight at his own pace you can really disrupt him. I'd like to see him fight someone who wasn't as super slow as JMM.

 

Well Marquez couldve done better if he had more size,strength, speed, and determination...oh yaeh and reach.

 

I was a bit disappointed by mayweather jr.'s performance to be honest. he shouldve won by stoppage.

 

Yep.

He was bigger, faster, stronger, rangier and younger, and that was the best he could do?

And Ugo, are you mad? Mayweather was a 5-1 favourite, he was supposed to win.

He was fighting a natural featherweight who just jumped two straight divisions from lightweight, a weight he'd only recently moved to.

He won a boring decision, taking no chances against the smaller, slower, older man.

Hardly impressive.

I'd still pick Pacman against Floyd. Too fast, too ferocious, too powerful.

 

Yes, Mayweather was expected to win, but a (boring) shutout against a guy who gave Pac great difficulties twice might not have been the best result in terms of marketing Floyd-Pac. Had Floyd shown some vulnerability here, more people might pay in their hopes of seeing Pacquiao demolish him. Now it seems quite unlikely

 

Juiced up or clean?

 

Pac won't fight PBF unless PBF is a deadman walking.

 

Pac will look like an Am against Floyd. He can't defend right hands. Mayweather can hit him and avoid everything.