The "Chris Arreola BLOWS" Bandwagon...

I think the people who think it was a good performance are basing it on the fact that he didn't go down or look seriously wobbled, kept on trying & made Vitali go backwards more than anybody else has.

However, notwithstanding the one haymaker potential, (inherent in most HWY fights), he was never in any danger of winning, or hurting Vitali, & he got shutout & stopped.

 

Arreola got put on his ass by Travis Walker.

And Vitali leaves his left hand by his waist...Wlad actually uses it in a jabbing motion pretty repetetively.

If Arreola lasted against Wlad as long as he did against Vitali, it'd be something of an accomlishment.

And he certainly doesn't deserve the chance based solely off of him getting his ass handed to him by his brother.

 

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And he's clearly better than who? One of the Klitschko's? Povetkin? Chambers? Chagaev?

 

Yes Wlad has a nice jab...and keep his hands up. But he has an suspect chin and stamina....Wladimir repetitive jab will give Arreola fits..but will also give him opportunities.

DESERVE? It's the Heavyweight division....they all deserve a bullet to their heads....

 

Opportunities to get hit more?

He was moving forward because Vitali wasn't occupying that space which punches.

 

At what point in the fight did Arreola stop throwing shots and gas out due to lack of conditioning ? Having the body of an Ethiopian long distance runner is not a pre-requisite to having the conditioning to last 12 rounds.

He right in the mix with them.. that makes him a top 5 fighter. He is better than Peter, would probably beat Chambers, and a toss up with Chagaev.

 

Did you not watch the fight? His punching was labored as all hell in the later rounds of that fight.

Fortunately for him, he's never been asked to go that many rounds before.

Peter is in the top 5?

And why would you take him over Chambers? Other than the fact that Chambers has lost weight and you like the big ones?

 

Uuuuuh, UNLIKE Arreola, JM Marquez has Actually Fought Someone of Merit OTHER than Floyd...Marquez was ALREADY a Hall of Fame Caliber Fighter w/a GOOD RESUME, PRIOR to Facing Floyd...That's a RIDICULOUS Analogy @ Best, Dude...

As Hut has Said MANY Times, there's NEVER Been a GREAT Fat Fighter & There NEVER WILL B...As REED has Said MANY Times, Larry Holmes & Riddick Bowe were NEVER SCULPTED, but in their Primes they were IN SHAPE...For all his APPARENT TALENT, When did Bowe's Career Go South???...When his WEIGHT Got Out of Control, that's When...Chris Arreola DOESN'T Have 1/10th of Bowe's Talent & He ACCENTUATES That w/a BOWEsque LACK Of Discipline...

Vitali Klit has NEVER Been Known for his Footwork, yet he Damn Near Looked like Cassius Clay in there, Compared to Arreola...YOU Don't Think Coming In 20-30 Lbs LIGHTER Would've IMPROVED Arreola's Footwork???....Made it HARDER for Vitali to Move Away from Him???...Arreola was a STATIONARY TARGET for Klit & that's DIRECTLY RELATED to how FAT he Is...

U Can Spray Perfume on FECES All U Want, but it's Still SHIT...For the BIGGEST Fight of his Life, Arreola Looked like a BEACHEDfuckingWHALE...EVERYTIME Vitali Hit him, his Body JIGGLED....Arreola WILLINGLY Hampers HIS OWN Chances of Winning AND he's a PISS POOR Example for Younger Fighters to Follow...

He BLOWS...



REED:hammert:

 

Spoken like a Man that DATES Fat Bitches...R U a CHUBBY CHASER, Doub???...Do your Women Typically OUTWEIGH YOU???...




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i only saw a quick glimpse of arreolas wife at the end of the fight, she didnt look too bad though, big titties

so atleast hes got that

 

:: ,... I'd love to see one of your 'real warrior' midgets get in the ring with Arreola,... when they're in the hospital as quadraplegics, they'll be screaming for a bullet to the head alright.

 

I think coming in lighter would have improved his footwork but made him less effective at backing up Vitali which is one thing he had in his favour throughout the fight. Vitali's "Ali like" footwork consisted of him practically running backwards most of the fight, because Chris had the punch and the mass to threaten Vitali whenever he started to close the gap. Losing 30 lbs won't do shit for Arreola's career at heavyweight. He's got the skills and the stamina, anybody that doesn't have half a foot in height and reach on him will be in serious trouble.

You really need to get over the whole "looks" thing.. I know you've been riding Chris ever since he showed up on HBO one night with his big ole titties flopping around.. the guy is an ogre but it takes nothing from the fact that outside Lennox Lewis he's given Vitali the toughest fight of his career.

Being fat and being "great" are pretty much exclusive deals... but since when have I said that Chris is an alltime great ?? Hell NO he isn't. Look at the title of your own thread and see if you can figure out what the point is...

 

Correction: it looks like garbage to puritans and Karls of the world. In reality Vitali keeps his distance better than most heavyweights in history and is lways ready to fire, which is exactly what is required from good footwork. That is like saying Ali had poor defense because he didn't block shots in traditional manner

 

You just name-dropped Lennox Lewis when talking about him.

And Arreola landed more effective punches than Colonel Sanders did?

 

I think it was smart for Vitali to keep te distance the way he did. If not, at 38, I could have seen another Wlad-Brewster I type scenario unfold.

 

LOL @ "name-dropped" - this requires no response

I'd say that Corrie Sanders best PUNCH was better than Arreola.. but please.. Sanders gassed completely after 2 rounds, whereas Chris seemingly increased pressure as the fight wore on. Overall, Chris did more "damage" in the fight. He fared much better than Sanders, easily.

 

So you weren't intentionally trying to associate Chris Arreola with Lennox Lewis?

And your argument is what, exactly, that Arreola performed better against Vitali (the heavier, 38 year old version that had been in retirment for four years) than Sanders did (against the prime version)?

Maybe he accumulated more damage, if by "damage" you mean the impact on Vitali's legs from the jog he had on Saturday night.

Sanders actually had Vitali in some trouble late in the first round of their fight.

When did Arreola ever have Vitali in trouble?

Either way, seeing as we're now comparing Arreola's performance with Col. Sanders'...it doesn't seem quite as dramatic as comparing him to Lennox Lewis.

 

I'm not comparing his performance with Sanders, you brought Sanders into the discussion, he did way better than Sanders did.

 

should i bump the true arreola bandwagon?

Instead of this garbage

 

Nah...THIS Arreola Bandwagon is MORE Appropriate...Wanna JOIN???...



REED:cheer:

 

Except that you're trying to compare his performance with Lewis', even though, you know, Lewis actually beat Vitali...and filleted his face in the process.

And Arreola, as you may or may not know, got his ass handed to him by Vitali...just like Sanders did.

So that would seem to be the much more appropriate comparison...but yes, let's stick with Arreola and Lewis.:kidcool:

(And let's not take into consideration the point in Vitali's career when they fought.)

So we'll exclude that and go with Arrreola lasting two rounds longer than Sanders, even though he landed nothing of the same consequence that Sanders landed (and you said he gassed after the second, but the third was perhaps the most competitive of the fight).

 

Nope. This the true Arreola bandwagon. Because he sucks.

 

And is fat.

 

sign me up. The dude is garbage

C

 

I disagree with that,.. back then, Vitali didnt know how to throw an uppercut, a proper hook or body shots, this version now throws them all with regularity,.. I remember Vitali threw the first uppercut in his life verses Lewis, after being nailed by one, he thought it would be a good idea to try it out, which drew Larry Merchant, (who was obviously in the midst of a boozer) to laugh and he quipped.. "Learning....on....the....job"..

Was he physically in his prime?... I cant really be sure of that,.. but he definitely was not in his prime mentally, the way he is today.

 

You can throw a lot of punches when you don't put anything on them.

This decrepit version would probably get stopped in less than six by Lewis...and I don't mean on cuts.

 

All he threw against Lewis were arching straight prods because that's all he knew how to throw, he like many, many other European amatuers are the protoge of European coaches who preserve thier amatuer styles well into their pro persuits, they dont teach them to shorten thier punches, or to counter-punch, it's all about 'point scoring' straights and backing away from the 'fringes' given pressure. Had Vitali thrown body shots, uppercuts and hooks with ease of which he dispatched them onto Arreola's beautiful face, ..I doubt Sanders would have lasted half as long. You're underestimating the role experience plays, as if it were a weaker asset than physical youth.

 

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My bad, Sanders lasted 2.5 rounds before he completely gassed :cheer:

 

Actually, the second half of round three was probably better for Sanders than the first...so your calculations may need some re-working.

Of course, Sanders arguably had Vitali more hurt in the sixth round than Arreola ever did in their fight. Even in the eighth, when he was so tired he was falling over himself with some of his punches, he still landed a couple pretty effective punches.

All of which is to say, even a completely out of shape Sanders, nearing 40 and off for a year, gave Vitali more trouble than Arreola did.

Draw your own conclusions.

But please, put Arreola's name alongside Lewis' again...I could use the laugh.