Poll : Why would PBF refuse to face Mosley?

We all know he's afraid to lose.

 

I think he genuinely resents the thought of having to fight a credible opponent at welterweight. I doubt he thinks he'll lose he just feels entitled to taking the path of least resistance since he apparently can. The guy has a chip on his shoulder so big it has it's own weather system.

So basically the last answer - he'll take as much as he can get for the least he can give for as long as he can.

 

So far every single vote implies that PBF is somehow afraid of losing. It's the motivation or the reason behind his fear that's in question.

Is he afraid of losing because he has his sights set on a Pacquia fight?

Is he afraid of losing because he knows his only claim to fame is his perceived invincibility (something only an idiot would subscribe to; apparently there's plenty of those)?

Or, is he afraid of losing because getting exposed will mean he can no longer cheat the public out of money?

I think it's probably a combination of all three. It's difficult to blame PBF given the number of fans who tuned in to watch him blow out an over-matched featherweight. Still, though, his legacy will be damaged. If he fails to face a real welterweight the rest of his career he'll go down as the man who picked on little guys and who created his own weight division in order to accomodate his apparent fear of fighters his own size.

On the other hand, if he waits until he has no choice but to fight guys his size, it's likely he will be passed his prime, in which case it's not unlikely he will lose to guys who in his prime he could've beaten. If he follows this path, it will be just as damaging because who's going to give big-mouth PBF the benefit of the doubt as to what he could and could not have done in his prime?

The other thing is, even if he does wait until he has no choice, it's likely that the best perceived opponents at 147 will have moved on or themselves be out of the mix, in which case it will have been a lost opportunity for PBF to prove himself.

In the end, my guess is that PBF will be known as the guy who was afraid to fight opponents in his own weight class. Instead, he'll be known as the bully who preferred to pick on feather-weights.

 

PBF is a joke. He knows if he fights a real welterweight with some skill he will lose. Instead he fights overmatched hams and then runs away to play with his dolls. Fuck him

Cupey

 

Best post you ever made!

 

I think it's fairly obvious that Fraud simply doesn't believe in himself, at least not to the extent that he proclaims. His constant bragging is obviously an act. What fighter who felt they were the best wouldn't want to go out and prove it? Mosley does, Cotto does, Pacquiao does. All 3 are clearly better fighters than Fraud.

Fraud is a fucking coward. He was petrified of taking any contact in the JMM fight. If he wouldn't take a chance against a guy he was flat out dominating and who couldn't lay a glove on him, why the fuck would he take a chance and fight one of the top 3?

The real question is, why is HBO allowing Fraud to get away with his mismatches when they don't let other fighters do it?

 

I don't understand why Floyd doesn't go back down in weight and pick the biggest money fights he can. Are you somehow telling me the the JMM fight netted him more money because it was at 144 (or 146 or whatever it ended up being thanks to Floyd's anything goes contract)?

So he couldn't have made the same PPV dollars at 135 where the fight would have been more competitive?

If you are scared to fight the best fighters at or around welter, then fine, go fight the best fighters below welter. Make some reasonable money, and then off into the sunset you go. Floyd fought some good fighters at lower weights, Corrales, Castillo, etc. He did reasonably well. He could possibly stay undefeated at 135 or 140 max. Why not do that?

What I am beginning to think is that Floyd is truly having trouble getting down to those weights, and his body is truly maturing into a welter. 146 for the JMM fight is more evidence of this. And if this is the case, then all I can say is that Floyd Mayweather Jr. is a fucking JOKE. If you can't make a lower weight, so you fight at welter, but you know you aren't really good enough to beat anyone who actually fights close to welter, then FUCK OFF.

All this shittalk is so damned old now. All the false bravado. It sucks to admit it, but sometimes you get in deep enough to a sport where you just ain't the best anymore, and then it's time to either take some risk (and some medicine) or GET OUT. I hope Floyd gets out. He is not contributing anything at all right now, the only exception being a fight with Pac solely because that fight really SHOULD be made, but at 135, so I guess it has some merit at whatever bizarre catchweight it will eventually end up at.

But that's it. Other than that, Floyd is an impediment to the advancement of boxing. The sad thing is, it is possible that he might be able to dig deep enough to get a close decision against Mosley or Cotto or someone of similar caliber. But we'll never know, because Floyd is apparently petrified of even discussing these potential fights.

 

Mosley ducked Floyd for way longer than Floyd has been ducking Mosley.

 

If you believe what Floyd says, but Mosley says the same thing about Floyd. Said he asked him for a fight when Floyd was at 130 and Mosley at 135, Floyd said no he was staying at 130 and Mosley moved to 147 to fight Oscar. What happened? Floyd moved up anyways. The whole tooth ache thing is stupid, he mentioned it after a fight, not in response to an offer from Floyd, which he already said he'd take if it was pushed out a month or two.

Do you have any actual proof that Mosley ducked Floyd?

 

Right now it doesn't matter what happened in the past, the fact is Mosley is the only one trying to make that fight NOW, when Mosley is a titlist and it actually matters.

Who really cares about the past? The fight means something NOW.

 

If he wins he beat an old man. Nothing to gain.

 

I'm sure PBF really cares what all you keyboard warriors think when he can generate (insert big number here) PPV.

 

Yes, a welterweight belt from the man who beat the man who beat the man.

 

I always took you as smarter than this. :doh:

 

Option 5 - he's an utter bellend.

 

:nono:

 

I'm not really too concerned about whom "avoided" whom in the past and what situations prevented the fight from happening then.

What matters now is that it'd be a good fight to make, but Mayweather is most likely waiting for Pacquiao-Cotto and hoping Pacquiao wins that one so he can face him.

After that, then hopefully Mayweather-Mosley can happen, provided Mayweather beats Pacquiao (I'm more confident of that than Pacquiao beating Cotto).

If Mayweather looks outside welterweight for big money fights again, he's not gonna get any big names.

 

The same Shane Mosley that ducked Floyd for years and refused to fight Paul Williams.

Floyd fighting the winner of Pac-Cotto will be one of the biggest boxing events ever. Put yourself in Floyds position no idiot would fight a roided Shane in the same circumstances.

 

So basically, you believe anything that Floyd says? Otherwise, please post some proof of Mosley rejecting an actual offer from Floyd.

 

Ohhh here we go again..."put yourself in Mayweather shoes" fight De La Hoya and Hatton or fight the much harder competitions in Margarito(who had been calling him out for a long time wayyy before the DE LA HOYA fight, COTTO, Mosley, or WILLIAMS...May vs. Cotto would have been a bigger than his Hatton fight...and May vs. Margarito(after he beat Cotto) would have been big...bigger than his comeback vs. Marquez...

 

Watch Shanes post fight interview after Vargas.

Now all of a sudden Shane says jump and Floyd is supposed to say how high. Fuck that shit.

Mayweather-Pacman is the biggest fight in boxing that can be made.

I feel sorry for you if you would fight Shane Mosley for 20mill instead of Pac for 40-50mill. Haters will never give Floyd credit for nada so need a way to trash a logical fight.

Shane point blank turned down P-will but conviniently it is swept under the rug unless you seriously believe that Berto is better than Paul Williams.

 

I agree i think Cotto-May would have been bigger than Hatton. Nada tells me that Margarito or Cotto is bigger than fighting Oscar. There is a reason why Margarito was desperate himself to fight Oscar.

It's hard to have a comeback fight against a convicted disgraceful cheat that is banned from boxing. I swear you guys will say anything to criticise Mayweather no matter how logically flawed it is.

 

:: Somehow Mayweather has successfully ducked/avoided fighting the best Welterweights of his generation...and that just dandy with some people.....


How Mayweather got away with never fighting.....Margarito, Cotto, Mosley, Williams and to a lesser degree Clottey, Cintron, Berto...yeah i know Berto is not proven and might just be shit and Cintron heart pumps kool-aid..but still both i would like to see Mayweather deal w/ their styles....

Maybe he just waiting for Mosley too get older...and Cotto to take some more punishment before stepping in the ring against them. William is gone...Margarito is gone...nobody is screaming for him to fight Clottey..Berto will probably be out of it vs. Mosley...


Stylistically Mayweather has fought fighters like Cotto before....but i'm he hasn't fought guys like Margarito who will come forward attack..attack..and won't be discourage by anything Mayweather throws at them..and won't think twice about punching Mayweather back/shoulder/arms, etc..

or someone like Mosley/Berto with the speed aggression chin(Mosley)..thought i think Mosley will get discourage if he is getting outbox, while Berto will keep on swinging...

 

I don't have any problem with Mayweahter fighting De La Hoya it's the biggest fight that he could have made at the time...i wouldn't even blame him for fighting Hatton..had he stayed around and fought the other TOP guys like Margarito, Cotto or Williams...but he RETIRED..because there wasn't any more easy paydays...


I know Mayweather was "retired" during Margarito's biggest victory....but he could have easily come out of retirement and made 15-20 mil for fighitng Margarito...and the fight would have been HUGE....HUGE....but he wasn't sure if he could WIN it...so that way he didn't "get inspirited" until COTTO was destroyed and Margarito was destroyed...now he could do what he has been doing....

Comeback w/ an easy fight and have set excuses for not fighting the top guys at 147.....

 

If Pac ices your boy who incidentally got a gift against the guy Floyd just tooled will you be critical of Floyd fighting Pac?

Floyd-pac could do 3 million homes. People who i know who no nada about boxing want to watch this fight.

 

I will never put a dime to a Floyd fight unless it is against a legit welter like Mosley, Cotto or Margacheato.

 

I'm not critical of Floyd fighting PACQUIAO NOW.....but that won't take away ALL the ducking and dodging that Mayweather has done in the last few years...Cotto, Margarito, Williams, Clottey, Margarito......how come Mayweather never face ONE OF THEM>??? HE somehow ducked them all....how is that possible without actually trying NOT to fight those guys...?

Margarito fought every top Welter of the last few years...Cotto, Mosley, Williams, Clottey, Cintron....

Cotto fought Mosley/Clottey/Marg...

they all fought each other or at least one or two...MAYWEATHER? Bumdomir and Judah...:boohoo::shit::shit::shit:

 

And what made Cotto "the man" again?

 

I actually don't have much of a problem with the fights Mayweather took in 2006-07, it was what he did after the Hatton fight that was really disappointing. There were good fights out there at WW, most notably Cotto, which was what the boxing world wanted to see, or even Mosley, who'd fought well in losing a close decision to Cotto. Instead he negotiated a bullshit rematch with DLH and then "retired". Fighting Marquez after a layoff is one thing, I had more of a problem with the layoff then taking a tune-up (I don't really like calling someone as great JMM a tune-up, but he is a lightweight after all) after the inactivity. He wouldn't have needed a tune-up if he'd been active.

He can still somewhat make up for wasting two years with what he does in 2010, but they better be the Pacquiao-Cotto winner and then Mosley if he beats Berto (which is what I expect to happen since these are his biggest paydays available).

 

You do realize you're debating with a nuthugging groupie who is completely biased and has tunnel vision that can only see straight between Floyd's legs don't you? Why don't you do like most people and let him make his rant, and then just ignore it. He isn't a real poster. Stop feeding the troll.