Is Arthur Abraham good enough to beat Jermain Taylor?

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I think he is. It is a make or break fight for him. So far we have seen that Arthur is very effective when he can get his opponent fight on his own terms but if Taylor is able to pull him out of his comfort zone (by landing the jab and moving so that Abraham has to open up and become the aggressor) then we might learn something new about his abilities. I think he has them against this version of Taylor.

 

It depends how will Abraham respond in the later rounds. Taylor runs out of stamina, because he always swings for the fences. If Abraham can work his way patiently, by the 10th or 11th round he could take Taylor out.

 

Yes he is. You dont have to be Marvin Hagler to beat that stuttering clutz.

 

He is at this point in Taylor's career.

 

If they had fought back in 07, I woulda picked Taylor. NOT because I thought highly of Jermain, but because at the time I didnt realize how big a puncher AA is. I always said, even years ago, that I could never pick JT to beat a puncher. I believe guys like Muzse said the same.

Ive never been all that high on Taylor. In fact in his entire career, the ONLY fight he ever impressed me in is when he destroyed Alex Bunema. He never looked that good again.

 

Sure, whatever you say, house. You don't have to be Bernard Hopkins to beat the rural hero either.

 

Why do people say Abrabum is a puncher. Just look at his records. I have seen almost all his fights. He straight up lost to Howard Eastman. He lost 75% of the rounds in two fights with Edison Miranda. He couldn't knock out a guy Shane Mosely knocked out at wELTERWEIGHT. Abraham is not a puncher at all.He may be in German system of fighting tomato cans and poisoning the opponent's water. Abraham is William Joppy with money behind him, a complete and utter fraud.

 

...as far as i am concerned...Abraham is stepping UP in this fight...Taylor hasn't even looked that bad in some of his recent outings....it is just that recurring latter round capitulation, that is worrying. However, i dunno if Abraham is such the power house at 168. I also think Taylor will have an easy time picking him off with the jab....Pavlik and Froch are both taller guys, they could give Jermain problems with their rangy jabs....Abraham hasn't got that reach. I don't think Abraham has been hit as many times as Jermain will hit him on saturday, and he hasn't really faced a bigger puncher.

 

Well if the fact is that Abraham isn't a big puncher and Taylor isn't a big puncher I'd think the winner will likely be determined on who has the better skills. I know nothing of Abraham, but Taylor shouldn't be fighting at 168 IMO. I think Abraham just moved up there himself so it'll probably round out, but let's not forget that JT made a career out of hitting Jr middleweights with millions of punches only to wind up winning by decision.

 

Agreed with AdamW a lot here. This is quite clearly a BIG step up for Abraham, who has fought a hell of a lot of bums at 160 (much of it not really his fault- 160 is a complete dead zone right now) but is now facing an elite level fighter, albeit one who is clearly on a steady decline.

I'm picking AA mostly because I think Taylor has declined quite markedly and he has horrible, horrible stamina, but Taylor has every chance IMHO for a number of reasons:

1. He is (or at least was) better than Abraham has shown himself to be overall up to this point.

2. AA is a notoriously slow starter himself and not exactly a pressure fighter. Those are the type of guys who really hurt Taylor (Pavlik, Froch). Taylor is much better suited to the type of problems Abraham brings- crisp punching, a tight defence and a low workrate.

3. Abraham looks like a frigging midget compared to the 168 guys in every photo I've seen so far ::

4. Miranda got to and badly hurt Arthur in the first fight. Taylor is a much, MUCH better fighter than that showy gobshite.

5. Abraham might not carry his power to 168 against good fighters like Taylor. Recent history is littered with 160lb-ers who don't carry their pop up to super-middle (Benn, Eubanks, McClellan and Pavlik to name just four). If AA can't blast Taylor outta there, he might have real trouble.

I do think Abraham wins, but it's a very close fight to call IMHO.

MTF

 

I agree with you. What the fuck is this notion that Arabham is some monster puncher?

He couldn't even KO sharon taylor, and yes I too think he lost to eastman.

He's had some admittedly impressive KO's over utter scrubs, and a KO over Miranda having been ruined by Pavlik.

He is not the monster puncher people think he is.

I'll be shocked if he KO's Taylor early, as I see it, the only chance he has of KOing Taylor is if Taylor gasses late, as per usual.

 

Abraham is definitely less skilled than Taylor, the only thing he does better is clam up like Winky Wright. I think Abraham's only chance to win is by late KO and I think Taylor will last this time and win a UD.

 

At first I wanted to bet on Taylor and hedge it midway through the bout, but the closer it gets I get the feeling Abraham will win inside five rounds. Abraham will hurt Taylor to the body and follow it up with a huge lefthook to end matters. :crafty:

Of course if it doesn´t happen and Taylor wins, I suffer from temporary memory loss like MWS after every Abraham win.::

 

I think Abraham is a pretty hard one-punch puncher, but he doesn't really fight in the manner that most punchers do.

He's more defensive, more selective...and he's not exactly the greatest combination puncher.

But punch for punch, I think he cracks pretty hard, and his accuracy isn't bad.

 

You're wrong. Abraham is one of the heaviest hitters in the entire sport.

 

Even if you dont think Abraham is a monster puncher, anyone who doubts he's heavy handed is foolish. Taylor can use any strategy he wants, he ALWAYS gets hit. And his chin, which was never that good to begin with, is probably damaged after Froch. Abraham is gonna lay him out. I'm VERY confident of it. I'm not confident about the results of Dirrell-Froch, or even Kessler-Ward, but I'm confident AA is gonna stop JT.

I'm prepared to eat massive crowe if JT wins, and if he does win I'll give him full credit. And I'll give credit to anyone picking Taylor.

 

YES, Arthur Abraham is Good Enough to Beat Jermain Taylor...N Fact, he's Good Enough to STOP Jermain Taylor, Which he WILL...Abraham's a HARD Punching, INSTINCTIVE Fighter...Taylor is PAINFULLY BASIC...By the 3rd Round or So, Abraham will have Seen EVERYTHING that Taylor has to Offer & It'll B ALL DOWNHILL From there for Jermain...



REED:hammert:

 

would you say he's Edison Miranda basic, or more Howard Eastman basic?

 

Reed please,....A HOUSE, supporting the HOUSE fighter,.. never saw that coming. I dont neccesarily disagree, but if Jermaine wins, there's alot of pumpkin & chicken pie to consume, especially considering you've picked Arabham to 'win it all' ,..

 

WORSE...@ Least Both of those Guys had PUNCHERS Chances...Taylor's MORE Well-Rounded than Either, but NO LESS Predictable...Abraham will VIOLENTLY End this Fight...



REED:hammert:

 

Did you just call Howard Eastman a puncher?

 

Abraham OR Dirrell....


REED:hammert:

 

Nah, but he's MORE of 1 than Taylor Is...



REED:hammert:

 

I'm pretty sure it's spelled A R A B H A M,..but it doesn't really matter, I know who you meant anyway.

 

Either Way, YOUR Favorite Country Bumpkin is Getting KNOCKEDthefuckOUT...


Yet AGAIN!!!...



REED:hammert:

 

I cant wait!:bears:

 

Well, it's obvious, that you two will never understand the country spirit, the pride of the FIELDS,... you two could just not possibly identify with Jermaine :crafty: ...not possible.

 

Man have you guys seen the height difference in this fight. I mean it looks like JT is fighting his little brother. I haven't seen much of AA. However, I've seen JT and the dude flat out sucks. He has got to have the worst footwork of all world class fighters of all time. If JT hasn't learned any other punches other then a jab and straight right which he over shoots all the time he will lose big time. I'll Holla 5000

 

:doh: You're not alone in selling out, I never knew the 'factions' hated each other so much, Malcolm X was right.