The Ultimate Fighter 10 - Heavyweights Discussion

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  1. jarhead

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    Justin Wren did look to have good all around skills, I just don't think he'll be a HW after the show is over.
     
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    yeah, they were making out that no one in the house wanted to fight him....much in the same way they were hyping Junk in this episode.
     
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    Exactly, its definitely a trend they have been using lately
     
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    Matt Brown is a legit badass though, and he did not embarrass himself on the show, he won his first fight and then lost an exciting bout with eventual winner Amir.
     
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    It was on one of the FIGHTZONE mma shows that are broadcast on SUN and Foxsports South regularly. I've been clearing them off of my tivo lately and it was one shown in early 2009, i think.
     
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    Pretty much anyone, any athlete, any person alive, is going to be gassed after fighting hard for two minutes. Only if you have experience in the gym learning how to pace yourself can you be an exception.
     
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    I don't think that was his point. They made up Brown to be 'the man' and he lost to the ordinary Amir.

    And Brown isn't a legit badass in mma. In real life, sure.
     
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    FUCK YOU GATTI!! For one, the gay ass sport you refer to is SOCCER, NOT FOOTBALL! Why don't you go dry hump your David Beckam poster, fuckin jackass:fightme:
     
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    :fightme::notallthere::warning:
     
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    Yes, but he won his first fight and was very competitive in his fight against Amir, unlike "Stapes" who looked like an amateur, and Scott Junk. He was hyped up for a reason, unlike these two, that was my point. And Brown is a rather good fighter and has built a nice career for himself in the UFC.
     
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    That's what I thought:hammert:
     
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    Of COURSE They Do...

    It's just like Best Friends Talking Shit to Each Other on a Basketball Court...When U're IN the Heat of Competition, ANYTHING Can & WILL B Said Back & Forth...Bitches, Ho's, Yo Momma Jokes, WHATEVER...U'll Even Take it to the Point of PLAYFULLY Needing to B SEPERATED by Others in Attendance, but @ NO Point has Rashad OR Rampage GENUINELY Looked Like they were about to SWING on the Other....

    That was OBVIOUS from the 1st Episode...They AMUSE Each Other, which is Why they CONSTANTLY Engage 1 Another in Shittalk...Conversely, Matt Hughes & Matt Serra RARELY Spoke to Each Other DIRECTLY & NEVER Had a Face to Face "Altercation" OR Needed to B Seperated...



    REED:hammert:
     
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    Stillwater family sues to untangle mystery of son's spring break death

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    As Josh Gunderson lay dead in a pool of blood in a hotel bathroom in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, his friend Ashley Jones tried to arrange a flight home to Minnesota, according to a wrongful-death lawsuit filed Thursday in Washington County District Court.
    When a concierge at the Sheraton Hotel entered the room where Gunderson and Jones were staying on spring break, she saw Jones "squatting, trying to close a suitcase and talking on her cell phone," she told authorities.
    The concierge, Lourdes Becerra Perez, asked what Jones was doing and was told: "I'm going to the airport now." Zachary Jensen, who was traveling with Jones and Gunderson, told Perez that Jones' parents were "trying to get her a flight to go back home."
    The concierge's statement was included in a lawsuit filed against Jensen; Jason Jones, Ashley's father; and Jones' company, Sterling Systems, of Golden Valley.
    Gunderson, 20, a University of St. Thomas freshman from Stillwater, died March 24 after he apparently slipped and hit his head on the bathroom floor. A spokesman for the U.S. Consulate in Guadalajara, Mexico, said in March that it appeared to be an accident. But the Gunderson family's civil suit alleges that Jensen and Gunderson "had a physical struggle or confrontation" and that Jensen caused Gunderson to "aspirate on gastric contents, asphyxiate and die." Gunderson had a blood-alcohol level of 0.12, according to a forensic pathologist's report included in the lawsuit.




    (By comparison, a Minnesota driver is legally drunk with a level of 0.08.)
    Jensen told Perez he was awakened by Jones screaming "Get off of me!" Jensen said he saw Gunderson attacking Jones and that when he intervened, Gunderson attacked him.
    He told Perez: "That's why I came down here, to protect her."
    Jensen, 27, a mixed-martial arts fighter who has appeared on Spike TV's "The Ultimate Fighter," was Jones' father's chauffeur and was in Mexico working as Jones' bodyguard, according to the attorney for the Gunderson family.
    Jensen had bloodstains on his T-shirt, hands, arms and right leg when Perez came into the hotel room, according to her statement.
    "I just defended myself, he was attacking me and it just happened, I tried to give him breath from my mouth and tried to give him CPR but he didn't respond at all. I can't believe! This should not happen," Perez said Jensen told her.
    The Gunderson family claims Jensen and Jones were the last people to see Josh alive and the pair have refused to communicate about the events leading to Josh's death.
    Jones left Mexico before police could question her and has been served with a subpoena compelling her deposition testimony, said John Magnuson, the attorney for Liz Gunderson-Koll, Gunderson's mother.
    Attempts to reach Jones and Jensen by phone were unsuccessful Thursday night.
    Gunderson-Koll said not knowing what happened to her son has been heartbreaking.
    "It tears you up inside," she said. "Here she is packing her suitcase as my son is lying there. Now, I'm just angry. Josh, right now he doesn't have a voice, so we're his voice, so we will find out what happened and we will get justice for him."
    Gunderson-Koll, who lives in Stillwater, said more information about Gunderson's death — including Jensen's statement to Mexican police — would be released this morning at a news conference at Magnuson's law office in Stillwater.
    Gunderson was a hockey captain at Stillwater Area High School, where he graduated in 2007. He attended St. Mary's University of Winona before transferring to St. Thomas.
    Gunderson and Jones had a class together at the University of St. Thomas and had become friends, Gunderson-Koll said. Gunderson had spent time with Jones at her house in Minnetonka and they had watched the movie "Twilight" together.
    "I hadn't met her, but he had talked about her," Gunderson-Koll said. "He said, 'I don't want a girlfriend right now, but she's nice.' "
    Gunderson's family is asking for more than $50,000 in the lawsuit, but the ultimate goal of Thursday's legal action is to find out what happened to Josh, Magnuson said.
    "They are seeking the truth as to how and why this very special and promising young man ended up dead in a pool of blood on the floor of a Mexican hotel room," he said. "The ultimate goal of the family is ... making sure that justice is done in his memory."


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    It happened before the show started taping, so I guess no one.
     
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    kind of gives you an idea of why he was so quiet and distant from everyone.
     
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    Brown has too many losses to be any good, doesn't he? I haven't looked at his opponent list, but he had losses prior to ultimate fighter, he had losses on it, and he's shown nothing to indicate he can compete at the top or even near the top. I think.
     
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    But you don't have to be a top guy to be a badass. He's a tough fighter with some decent skills, that's all I meant. And he was one of the best fighters to come out of that season of TUF, so I think his hype on the show was justified.
     
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    I bet the guys on the show would have laid off the guy had they known this. lol I bet they feel lucky to have not been murdered. :lol:

    That is pretty crazy though.
     
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    Big Baby's armbar was SICK! I hope he wins the whole tournament, KOing Schaub and Nelson on the way.

    EDIT:Here they go with the "will Kimbo fight??" again.
     
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    Very impressive transitions for such a giant human. Big baby has some skill. I hope he wins the whole thing, he's the most likable dude on the show and he's looked the most impressive out of anyone so far.

    WAR BIG BABY!!!
     
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    I doubt he fights. A couple other guys put up better fights than Kimbo. If anyone should come back it's Wes Shivers. He put on a good fight and his fight should have gone to a third round.
     
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    Come on. Do you honestly think that Kimbo would get bumped because someone else is more deserving?
     
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    I believe Kimbo does not fight on the show again. So yes.
     
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    I'm glad Big Baby fought and won, he is easily the most likeable guy on the show, by quite a margin. He reminds me a bit of Hopkins - facially, not personality of course ;)

    And he is the only one that's looked remotely impressive.

    I hope Brendan busts up that cunt John though.
     

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