Angulo/Yorgey, Dawson/Johnson

Nah he is shit.

 

:bears::bears::bears::bears:

 

Chad would whup Pascal's ass badly!

 

Just watched the fight on DVR.... Johnson won 3 rounds at BEST. You could argue Chad won 10-2. The fight might not have been exciting, but IMO it was Chad's best perforamnce since the Adamek fight. He boxed beautifully in my mind.

 

Calzaghe would have smashed Dawson, seriously what the fuck is wrong with you

 

This fight was just like Milkduds rematch with Johnson.

 

Adamek is the best fighter on Chad's resume and no fucking way this Hopkins beats Dawson. Fact is, after avoiding them for 95% of his career, badass Joe carefuly selected old ass Roy and Hopkins as his defining fights (Once he saw how much they declined) instead of facing a much younger, fresher and bigger opponent like Dawson. There's a reason for it.

 

I had floor seats at the fight last night. Very surprised by the close score cards. At the fight it looked like Johnson may have won 2-3 rounds tops.

Angulo/Yorgey fight was a brutal beatdown. I couldn't tell exactly what was going on during and after that fight but it looked like Gary Shaw was constantly yelling at the HBO crew before the fight even started.............and then when the fight was over.

He looked annoyed the television portion was taking so long with the fighters already in the ring..............then he went completely apeshit after Angulo knocked Yorgey out.

I couldn't tell if he was yelling directly at the HBO crew or if maybe a member of the athletic commision was in the same general area and he was pissed off about how the fight was handled.

Anybody see this on the television feed?

CondomDepot.com plastered on Chad's ass brought some chuckles also. ::

 

Dynamic talent my arse.

One controversial win over Coffe, and one boring decision, and what else?

The way I see it is he is a decent all-round fighter but nothing else, and he is boring in the ring.

Nothing about him is spectacular. Speed, power, agility, all decent but nothing special. He's not spectacularly skilled or crafty, and his chin is suspect.

Slappy Joe is better than him in almost every way. Faster, stronger, craftier, more versatile, tougher. Dawson probably punches a bit harder but that's it.

As for why Slappy Joe didn't fight Dawson, well I wonder who is going to look better on Joe's resume in years to come, Bernard and Roy (old or not) - or boring arse Doorson?

Bascially nobody gives a fuck about Doorson. Joe simply would have made more money and got more recognition for fighting Roy and Nard.

 

Yep there's a reason for it, nobody gives a shit about Doorson, and Joe stood to make more money and recognition from fighting Roy and Nard, as I stated above.

 

Agreed. If you think Doorson would beat Calzaghe there is something wrong. Slappy Joe is better in almost every conceivable way.

 

i dont see calzaghe as faster or stronger. certainly not rangier than dawson. craftier, sure, but he had been fighting much longer. dawson looked craftier last night than he had in any other fights.


seriously, the jones jr win will be looked back at as more meaningful than a dawson win wouldve been? :atu:

 

I think most people see the Jones Jr win for what it was, and I haven't really seen anyone proclaiming that as one of Calzaghes best wins. That doesn't equate to Dawson beating Calzaghe though. Hopkins despite his advancing years still had a fair bit to offer imo. I haven't seen the Johnson II fight yet but I haven't seen anything from Dawson thus far which makes me think he would have beaten Calzaghe.

 

Joe didn't duck Johnson. He went up and fought the older guys for money and he was old too. I could see making the argument that Joe ducked Chad if he went on and fought Pavlik or Jermain Taylor, but he retired.

I am not with ther anti-Dawson crowd but Johnson is still basically unproven. Hiw win over a weight drained Adameck was great. His fights versus Glen were not and Tarver were not and who again is fighting old people? Dawson or Joe?::::At least Slopkins was the lineal light heavy champion

 

I have a quick question for you. How was Hopkins the lineal light heavy weight champion? I'll Holla 5000

 

Yea isn't it Erdei?

 

Well, Hopkins was ranked number 1 by most publications and experts. You are right. The actual lineal guy is Erdei becaUSE HE BEAT Gonzalez who beat DM. I don't think anyone with an ounce of boxing knowledge thinks Erdei is the best fighter. Hopkins was thought to be lineal because he beat Tarver who beat Roy. However, Roy was never the real lightheavyweight champion.

 

Did you consider Roy the lineal light heavy champ?

 

Great breakdown. It's almost like somebody made a clone of Antonio Tarver who I thought we just got rid of. At the same time I like Dawson a tad bit better than Tarver.

 

Basically yeah. Like a faster, less powerful Tarver. I just don't see what the fuss is about.

And the word "dynamic" and Doorson certainly don't go together, just like they don't go together with Tarver.

 

Hebrew please.

Calzaghe is significantly quicker, even the recent slowed down Calzaghe, it's easy to see he is quicker. Doorson's speed is decent at 175, but nothing special. He's nowhere near as fast as say, a Dirrell (as loathesome as Dirrell is).

And physically Joe is strong, stronger than Doorson. Doorson might punch harder, but even then I'm not sure. Doorson's power is also nothing special, and he has a pretty crap KO%, like just over 50%.

 

Doorson.... I don't get it?

 

I dont think Calzaghe was fast, his hands were swift, but it was more his hyperactive working pace and rhythm, handspeed wise, nah, I think Dawson's got him if you measure single or double shots, not that it makes Dawson a better fighter if they fought right now, he needs more experience.

 

Dawson's win over Adamek looks better as the Pole has notched a couple of good wins since then. Otherwise Chad hasn't done much

 

You really are a bad judge of speed if you think Sloppy Joe's hands are faster than Dawson's. Chad not only has faster hands, but he actually throws PUNCHES, not slaps w/punches mixed in.

As for Dirrell, yes Dirrell has faster hands than Dawson. In fact Dirrell probably has the fastest hands in the sport. But Dawson is by far a better fighter at this point than Dirrell is. Chad actually fights under control, and knows how to use his talent. Whereas Dirrell either doesnt know how to fully use his talent yet, or is too scared to. Either way, Dawson would beat the shit outta Dirrell.

 

Calzaghe would have been way too much for Dawson. Grow up you silly little munchkins.

 

Agreed. I'd take Calzaghe over Dawson for sure.

 

From the next televised boxing show "...clean punching, and ring generalship which basically means not fighting like a bitch when you are in your prime."

 

Yeah, this was noticeable and pathetic. Jeepers fuck, just give them some props and move on.

 

Once upon a time I liked Lampley. I thought he brought a lot of enthusiasm and perspective. But whether it's because I no longer buy his B.S. or because he's gotten worse, I can't stand the guy anymore. He would've fit in well in Nazi, Germany, or Gorbachez era USSR. He's nothing more than a propogandist.

By the way, Saturday's card was crap.