MOST OBVIOUS AND UPSETTING DUCK JOBS

But Roy was THE Marquee Fighter & As Such the Bout Should've Taken Place WHEREVER HE Wanted it To...U're Only Blaming Roy More Because it's CONVENIENT...


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It Go's BEYOND Gonzalez...Virgil Hill, Richard Hall (2x), Griffin, Harmon...Against EACH of those Guys, MichalSHITski Looked WORSE than Roy did...AND, "Ya'll Musta Forgot" about the 1st Fight w/Rocchigiani, which was in MichalSHITski's PRIME...

B "Truthful" to YOURSELF...



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What distinguished RJJ as the "Marquee" fighter?

 

Well, he beat Hill earlier than Roy, he didnt have to go 1-1 with Griffin, he was completely shot when he fought Harmon and near shot when he fought Hall the second time round, plus added to that he was never that great....BUT he was the only other LHW who had a claim during RJ's reign...and they never fought, I don't think either ever wanted to step outside the comfort zone

 

His Olympic Days, the FACT that he was the Best Fighter in the World Lb for Lb, the FACT that he had a BETTER RESUME than MichalSHITski & the FACT that he was a "Marquee" Fighter in the United States, which is the MECCA of Professional Boxing...

Any MORE Questions???...


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You are correct. Jones looked better against those guys. His style is more eye-catching than Dariusz' and he is clearly the better fighter too. Nobody is denying this so you don't have to be defensive about it.

The thing is, Dariusz was clearly the best challenger of the division and had a legitimate claim to the title (too). It hurts both their legacies that neither really wanted the fight. I can't think of another situation where an all-time great fighter spent years in his division and did not want to fight his obvious #1 contender

 

He Beat Hill 1Fight Earlier than Roy...Roy DIDN'T Need SHADY Officiating to Get a KO Win Over Griffin (& @ Least Roy PUT Griffin on the Canvas)....w/Out Question, Roy Jones Fared MUCH Better Against Common Opponents...



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So how exactly did you come to the conclusion that Shane is being ducked by Floyd?

 

That Go's BOTH Ways Though...

Considering Roy was the More ESTABLISHED Fighter, WHY Wouldn't MichalSHITski Do WHATEVER it Took, ie., Come to America, to Fight him???...Roy was the MARQUEE Fighter @ a Time when VERY FEW Marquee American Fighters Traveled Abroad (Dela, Sugar Shane, Vargas, Floyd)...& MichalSHITski KNEW this...



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Exactly, he ruined Hill and RJ feasted on what was left. You're right, RJ didnt need shady officiating to keep Griffin on the canvas, he used a few right hands to keep him down while he was prone. Seriously though, its a dead argument, neither guy deserves much credit for it not happening, plus we all lost out on what might have been a contest when DM was at his best.

 

It does go both ways and I do think Dariusz is as much to blame for the fight not happening. I think it just hurts Jones more because he has so much more to lose in terms of credibility (Dariusz was a very good contender, nothing more)

 

Sure it would have been a bigger win than Glen Kelley or Clinton Woods for example.

Roy has beat and fought much better fighters than DM.

 

:::M was the champion. Not only that, DM probably could draw more of a crowd in a bigger venue. Since when does a popular champion have to fight at the home town of a popular challenger? Roy had the HBO billions behind him as well. Roy is the one who claimed he doesn't want to travel, yet he has no problems going across the world to fight Danny Green.

 

At light-heavyweight? Who? And who of them were ranked above Dariusz?

 

So instead of fighting the champ Roy took on school teachers, lawyers, policemen, etc. and Roy somehow gets his fans to back him on it, hilarious fanboy syndrome for sure. Roy's fans know Darius was a real threat so naturally they'll excuse him for not fighting Darius and then they'll create a fantasy match in their small little brains where Roy dominates him like he did Richard Hall and Otis Grant and then try and convice us that Hall and Grant are very close to resembling DM so why even fight? But the fact is Darius had a real good shot of beating Roy! I always thought this fight not happening was a crime to the boxing public but I can see now with all the fanboys in boxing today that fighters don't need to actually prove it to appease the fanbase.

 

So in the plaster wrap topic you said Margarito was never considered a puncher with a KO% of 62 but Del Valle is with a 50% KO ratio?

 

You need to take math classes.

 

Calzaghe fought Roy at 175.

 

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You have a Roy Jones agenda, I'm talking about careers percentages here. There is only a BC and AD, not a BRJ and ARJ.

 

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And the result?

 

19 KO's in 27 Wins is 50%???..."Marvelous" Math Skills U Have There, Homey....


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Beat REED To It...


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del valle was a pretty good fighter at the point he fought jones jr. before he started smoking too much weed.

 

Tarver fought Harding because Harding beat him the first time around. Harding broke Tarver's jaw and ribs. Tarver may have been talking crap about Jones trying to woof a fight, but Tarver had unfinished business to take care of first---even though he was trying to pull a David Telesco with Jones.

And Jones beat him the first fight. Jones was almost done by that point because his style was heavily dependant on speed and athleticism. When those started to fade, he got caught with shots that likely wouldn't have landed in his prime...similar to Muhammad Ali in that he was technically flawed but superbly talented.

 

Another one who can't read, wonderful. CA-FRICKIN-REER %

Jones fans crack me up ::

 

he's referring to the first tarver/harding fight - the one tarver lost, like you said. that fight happened because RJJ for whatever reason didn't want to fight Tarver at that point.

looking back, RJJ did Tarver a favor. my guess is RJJ would've destroyed Tarver had they fought then. Mainly because at that point Tarver was pretty inexperienced.

 

Dude, DelValle Fought Jones in 98'...Since Then he's Sprinkled In SEVERAL 1 1/2 - 2 YEAR LAYOFFS...Del Valle is even OLDER than Roy, has HARDLY Been an "Active" Fighter for Nearly a DECADE, Yet YOU Think his CAREER KO % is a Better Representative of his POWER than his KO Ratio @ the Time of the Roy Fight???...




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I do. Fighters' KO ratios always start off deceptively high because early in a fighter's career he's facing crappy competition for the most part.

A low KO ratio is telling, but a high one doesn't tell you much unless you understand "who" the fighter knocked out.