3OG: how's sparring with Kessler going??

I just read that you're helping him, let us know...

 

Wrong forum, no problem though I'll move it.


Oops, I'm not a mod, never mind carry on.

 

Kessler probably heard Otis say he doesn´t punch hard and now Otis is unconscious.

 

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:: I just call an ace an ace! just cause you cant pop with 16oz. doesn't mean if you throw 100/round you're not gone cut or hurt a guy

 

So how's it been going Oates?.. are you getting some good work in mate?.. did you wobble him?..

 

Lemme ask you a question as a professional fighter. Do you think it's ok for a fighter to quit or give up on himself because he is being dominated. Or are you the type of figther that will put it all on the line and would rather go out on your shield or have your corner/doctor/referee stop the fight. I'll Holla 5000

 

Interesting question, but I don´t like how you phrased the bolded part. I mean you played football, so I guess there were games you were blown out and it was 7-27 with 2 minutes to play and you were just going through the motions or already had the reserves on the field. You basically "gave up", because you knew the game was decided. It´s a bit more difficult to go through the motions, when you are down eight rounds to zero and another guy is still trying to bash your skull in. Nevertheless interesting idea to get a fighters perspective. Maybe Otis should write his thoughts down for this new website Fightbeat.com. ::

 

You are true there were games that I played in that we got blwon out. Not many but there were a few. That being said we did put the second stringers in but guess what they dudes went out and competed hard as fuck cause they had something to prove. They wanted to show everyone that they could play and perhaps the person playing ahead of them didn't deserve to be the starter. Also thos sames dudes are out there showing casing their skills for other teams. Just like a fighter who may be losing or getting dominated fighter could be showcasing his skills for another tv date on HBO/Showtime/ESPN2. I'm sorry no one wants to pay to see someone quit just because they are losing. So yes I framed my question the way I wanted to. I'll Holla 5000

 

At the same time putting the reserves in is probably the same as the trainer throwing in the towel and stopping a fight. It´s throwing in the white flag. It´s the reasonable coach that forfeits the match/fight to fight another day. But what if your coach isn´t reasonable, you take a beating, and you know there is no way you can beat your opponent. You can´t call the replacement punching bag. Take Peter vs. Vitali. What could Peter possibly have shown to HBO or ESPN in the next four rounds? His ability to take a beating and nothing else. And I guess a lot of people still paid to watch quitters like Duran or Vitali.

I guess Otis isn´t the best ot answer that question as he is an active fighter, but it truly is an interesting subject, to maybe talk and write about with former fighters. Certainly more interesting than the usual shit internet press release writers put out there.

 

Good question! I am always willing to go out on my shield; in your country, town, street etc. I was always the guy in football that was diving over the top during knell down or starting a fight.:: You heard Lenny "Baby it ain't over til its over!" On the other side fighters fight! So the corner or ref should step in; cause 99% fighters are "Ready to Die like Biggie". This will be a good fight! Kessler can take a shot. Dre has been typed as a guy w/o pop. One guy throws 100/rd. The other knows every angle in boxing from both stances. Toon in! Kessler is ready and focused w/ a high level of sharp sparing. Give you my pick Fri!:stir:

 

Thats some good insight. Thx for the info Otis. :kidcool:

 

No it's not the same dawg. Cause the reserves are still out there busting their asses. What you think just because we are getting our asses kicked and they give me the ball I'm not gonna try and score. Whether we are winning by 100 or losing by a 100 I'm still gonna be out there giving everything I got. Now you say that if a fighter isn't protected by his trainer then the doctor can stop the fight, the commissoner can stop the fight and guess who else can stop the fight, the fucking referee so just because the trainer is an idiot does not mean that all the rest of the folks will be idiots. But I'm glad 30G saw things my way as well. Let's see you have an ex-NFL player who claims that he would never quit even if that meant death and you also have a professional fighter that says the exact same thing. I'll Holla 5000

 

30G thanks for confirming what I think most athletes believe in. Now I'm not saying athletes want to die competing in their sports. But when you have a passion and love for what you are doing then you are willing to sacrafice everything for success or will die trying. In my eyes when I was playing football quitting was not an option. I wasn't gonna let anyone including my teammates think that they were out working me or get the best of me. I didn't give a rats ass who you were you were not gonna get the best of me and if you happen to get lucky at the end of the day you was gonna come over shake my hand and same damn I don't ever wonna do that shit again. I think that's the mind set you have to have. If not then cats might want to look into something else. I'll Holla 5000

 

Did you ever limp off the field with a sore knee Bigdawg?...I hope not,.. I see NFL players quitting from the field with bitch-faces on all the time,.. it alarms me,.. if you got a sore knee you grit through that bone crunching shit till it breaks, then when it breaks, you damn well 'hop' to it right?..:crafty:

 

Yeah but unfortunately for Sam Peter he can´t call Chris Arreola to finish a fight with Vitali Klitschko for him. Of course Arreola would give everything for rounds nine through twelve as well.

And all you have to do is watch the fight between Yorgey and Angulo to see a stupid ref, commish, doctor and corner all in one. When Yorgey returned to his corner after the 2nd round, he still didn´t have his legs under him, and no real idea what was going on. Then he was dragged around the ring on his knees in round three, hanging onto Angulo in an unsuccessful attempt to stay on his feet. The ref didn´t even count. A few seconds later, Yorgey went down like he was hit in the head with a sledgehammer.

 

If BIGDAWG suffered an injury on the field and had to limp away, his team doesn't automatically lose......








....He wasn't that good.





I'll HOLLA 5001 :kidcool:

 

Bigdawg says, you fight on through injury, no matter what, if you can stand, you fight,.. therefore he must apply an equivalent philosophy to the NFL too, if you break your leg on the field, you play on, if the bone slides out of the shin like a spear, you stick that motherfucker into the ground for balance, you dont 'retire'. If an NFL player displays ''bitchassness'' and lays ontop of the "quit mobile", Bigdawg should wave up his hands to the crowd like a conducter and get a chant going,.."COWARD!, COWARD!, COWARD!, COWARD!, COWARD!"

 

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Please provide my post where I said a fighter should fight through injury. Please tell show me. Don't believe I said that. However whos word should I take internet geeks who have never in their lives competed in anything or a current fighter that puts his life on the line. Its not rocket science but I think I'm gonna have to agree wit 30G who just happens to agree with me. Sorry I had to make yall retire. I'll Holla 5000

 

Actually 30G agrees with me as well. So therefore I guess a professional fighter feels that you are a coward if you quit rather then going out on ur shield. His words not mine. But like I said you got way too much bitchassness in ur veins to understand. I'l Holla 5000

 

You said a fighter should never, ever quit, or they've got bitchassness in thier veins, ....but now you're saying, a fighter doesn't have to fight through injury?... or are you saying internal injuries to the head and organs dont count, cause you can't see em' ?..:crafty:

 

a cut = injury. and an external visible one too.

 

Once again where did I say a fighter should fight through injuries. Where in any of my post did I state that. I said that a fighter should never quit. And I guess me and 30G agree cause he said the exact same thing. Question do you think Nate Campbell should have quit againt Bradley. Or do you think he showed some bitchassness? I'll Holla 5000

 

ugh this is getting embarassing.

 

Saying "A fighter should never quit" implies that a fighter has to fight through injuries...

 

Exactly.

It's an oxymoron to say "I never said a fighter should fight through injuries, I said a fighter should NEVER quit".

Well if a fighter never quits, he has to fight through an injury.

 

please, dont make this any worse guys.

 

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