LOOKS LIKE FLOYD WANTS ANOTHER TUNE UP

that weight issue is what to me sort of taints Pacquiao at welterweight. Clearly stopping Cotto was awesome.

I just don't like the fact that he made 147 for Oscar with no problem but for the hardest fighters at 147 they have to drop to 145 even if they bring belts to the table.

 

Only "teeny-bopper" fans give two shits about who calls out who.

Fights are made in the negotiating room.

 

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=23586

 

Ooohhh now all of a sudden we're supposed to believe Floyd is willing to fight Shane Mosley hunh? Bullfuckingshit. This is just Floyd using this as leverage in negotiations so he can pretend he doesn't need Pacquiao. Meanwhile Freddy Roach and team Pacquaio have already made the same fucking statement about Shane being there backup.

Poor Mosley, all he wants to do is fight the best and even though he holds the welterweight title, all people see him as is a bargining chip.

 

Nuh, pbf is the lineal welterweight champ, + p4p champ, and Shane ducked him not once, but twice. pbf is a ppv superstar, whereas Shane cant draw flies to shit, pbf should accept no less than an 80 - 20 split and he dont need him, and would school him anyway.

 

if Pacquiao fights Shane he gets killed.

Cupey

 

If Pacquiao-Mayweather does fall through then they both go after Mosley....i wonder who he'd rather fight. Simply whoever offers him a better deal?....or does he really fancy beating one guy over the other?!.......does being at golden boy makes a Mayweather fight more likely?

 

Pac will probably fight JMM again if that happens.

 

Mosley said in terms of legacy, he prefers PACQUAIO. Also another way to get back at Mayweather who was FREEZING out Mosley. Mosley tends to make more with Pacquaio fight and negotiations with Arum should be smoother than with Mayweather.

Strike while hot....

 

This annoys me to. Did Freddie Roach just invent a new weight class for Manny.

If anything the sanctioning bodies are culpable. It should be taken out of the fighters and the promoters hands. They should draw a line in the sand and tell Pac if he wants to fight for a Welterweight title it's got to be at the 147 limit...........otherwise it's not a Title fight.

Of course we know they won't risk doing that and losing possibly millions in sanctioning fees. :shit:

Will Marquez have to go UP to 145 to fight Manny also instead of at a more realistic weight for himself? We all know Marquez was pushing it going up to 140 as it was. He's older then Manny and isn't going to fill in any more then he already has.............as we should have seen in the Mayweather fight.

 

TALKING about it is the FIRST Step...REED ANXIOUSLY Awaits Step 2...



REED:bears:

 

If Marquez bets Hatton I don't think the public would mind another clash. But I'm sure everyone wants Mayweather-Pacquiao, and with good reason. Personally I don't think this fight will be to good. Pacquiao needs to be pressed to get a good fight, and with Marquez sharp counterpunching, and history with Pacman this would be another barn burner.

Cupey

 

Nah, as Long as Sugar Shane HANDLES His Business vs. Berto, he'll DEFINITELY B Fighting Pacquiao &/or Floyd by the Summer of 2010...Sure, he's a Bargaining Chip RIGHT NOW, but as Looooong as he Takes Care of Berto (as he SHOULD), he'll STILL B in the Mix....





REED:hammert:

 

Going up to 140? What are you talking about?

The mayweather fight was at 147, Floyd weighed in at 147.

 

The Thing is, Pac-Marquez will ALWAYS B a Viable Option...Even if Shane & Floyd EACH KO'ed Manny in the 1st Round, Marquez would STILL B a Viable Option for Manny...Manny Should Take Care of the BIGGER Boys 1st...That's the BENEFIT of Being a Little Guy in a Higher Weight Class...+ the History that Pac & Marquez have...

F.Y.I., REED Thinks Pac FINALLY Gets a DECISIVE Win Over Marquez, if it's @ 135 or Above....

REED:hammert:

 

Me too. Pacquiao has turned into a fucking beast at 140+, and well, Marquez hasn't.

If Manny does fight Marquez, I reckon it'll be at 140. Manny has filled out so naturally, I think he'd find it hard to make 135 now.

Personally I think the first one was decisive, Manny was robbed with that draw. Second fight wasn't decisive, I thought Manny edged it, but it was extremely close.

 

I was talking about before the Mayweather fight. Marquez was barely a 140 lb'er.........nevermind 147. I'm not giving Floyd nor Manny a pass regarding the weights they wanted/demand they fight Marquez at.

Marquez is at a disadvantage fighting either guy 145.......147 whatever. Manny fights Marquez at 145 he's doing the same thing with an older fighter that Floyd did.

 

So Pac is now a welterweight but JMM isn't? Mayweather is CLEARLY bigger than both of these guys. Pac has fought at 147 twice, Mayweather has fought at this weight for the past 5-6 years.

Pac and JMM are similar in size.

 

If they fight at 140 i think Pacquiao Ko's Marquez this time around.....

 

personally I think if Marquez handles Hatton in good fashion there will be more of an outcry for this match. I think Pacquiao losing to Mayweather hurts him more because he's already been there and fought Hoya as well as Cotto. So what excuse can there be?

Cupey

 

Exactly. There's a fucking huge difference.

You should know better Noble.

 

Maybe we can look forward to this as a card: 75 dollars on PPV.

Mayweather vs Mathew Hatton
De La Hoya vs Chavez Jr.

They should also schedule Pavlik vs Williams and Klitschko vs Haye on the card but cancel them both a few days before.

To top of it off they should open up bags of cow shit from the ceiling and spray it over every boxing fan in the arena.

 

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:atu:Thats not what you were saying prior to the fight.
I guess it hurts when your boy gets pasted late twice out of his 4 most recent fights. Hey theres always Calderon.:laughing:

 

Gerald McClellan himself has recovered better after his fight with Benn than Cupey has after Trinidad got schooled vs Hopkins.

Both are equally sad to see.

 

So it looks like it's unanimous. Everybody wants to see Pac fight Marquez at 145 or higher because JMM will have no disadvantage at a higher weight over Pacman.

 

No, 140 it would be good if they really do want to fight a third time.

Of course Pacman would be better off, as odd as it is, he's incredibly effective at 140/147.

But he is 5'5, and has fought at this weight for the past year.

Don't act like Pacman is the same size as Floyd. Floyd is now a legit welter in size, about an inch shorter than leonard, but a bit stockier for example. And he's been a welter for what, half a decade?

Pacman is significantly smaller.

It doesn't matter how effective he is, the fact is, Manny is not a big guy.

Point being, Floyd dragging Marquez up to 147 when floyd has been a legit welter for years is a bit different from little Manny, who's moved up to this weight and been smashing significantly bigger guys.

 

I love how you play with words and facts. "About an inch" "But a bit stockier". ::

Floyd is 5'8. Leonard was a full 5'10 and he started his career at 147 and went on to fill 154 and 160 quite nicely. Manny is NOT this midget you pretend him to be. He's not 5'5 he's 5′ 6½ and is listed as such. That's how he's listed and that's how he looks. He bulked to 147 fucking great. He's had 2 fights at 147 as well and looked sensational in both, strong as fuck. Floyd has had 5 fights there. Mosley said it. Manny is now a legit, full fledged Welterweight and proved it the other night. If you didn't think JMM had any bussiness with Floyd, he shouldn't have it with Manny at this point other than for the strange fact that he has arguably beaten him TWICE.

 

Manny is not 5'6 and a half. People that have met him say he's about 5'5. Possibly 5'5 and a half, I think his height is exaggerated by about an inch.

Gay Marquez has arguably beaten Manny once. The first fight was clearly Pacquiao's, that draw was bullshit.

Manny is highly effective at 147, but that doesn't mean he's a natural 147 pounder.

Just like Duran (when he was on form) was highly effective at 147 and 154 and even 160 on a couple of occasions.

Manny has proved himself to be a force at welterweight, but he is still a small guy.

Floyd is bigger than Pacquiao, it's not even arguable.

 

"Like I said before" - an inch taller.

http://www.celebheights.com/s/Sugar-Ray-Leonard-47275.html