JOHNSON PROMISES TO BRING THE TITLE BACK HOME

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    [FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]When Star Boxing's top rated undefeated heavyweight Kevin "Kingpin" Johnson (22-0-1, 9KO) (WBC #6, WBA #6, WBO #8, IBF #12) steps into the ring on December 12th to challenge Vitali Klitschko (38-2, 37KO) for Klitschko's coveted WBC Heavyweight <nobr style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 100%; color: darkgreen;" id="itxt_nobr_1_0">Championship[​IMG]</nobr>, he will not only be fighting for himself, but fighting for our entire country.

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    Arreola and Peter said the same thing
     
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    True, but they are talentless. Johnson has skills

    Cupey
     
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    he will lose by ko
     
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    Does anyone else not give a shit where a fighter's from?

    If I root for Johnson it won't be because he's American. It will be because I fucking hate Wlad.
     
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    And you hate Wlad enough to root Johnson over his brother too? :lol:

    Completely agreed. I actually like Johnson's way of fighting, I just don't think he is good enough
     
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    Oh yeah. Forgot. Wlad is "injured." It's Vitali.

    I think Wlad and Vitali create circumstances wherein one can fight and the other cannot as a way to avert the otherwise inevitable call for them to face each other.
     
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    Johnson has no power. He will have to run all night in hopes of jabbing his way to a decision. He has a good jab, I will give him that.
     
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    Johnson will get murdered. Vitali wins via a pissy diaper right hand in the 7th.
     
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    When is Vitaly going to step up and fight someone good?
    I mean, you don't see Haye or Ruiz taking on a bum like Johnson?
    Hell, Ruiz has ALREADY defeated a Johnson, and that Johnson was a much better fighter than this Johnson.
     
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    Didn't Vitali beat the same Johnson? Very easily?
     
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    Who else is Vitaly supposed to fight? Who else is Wladimir supposed to fight?

    Who gives a :shit:?
     
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    Bitch fight by Vitaly, once again, hand picking his opponent. Johnson has some potential, but he's a loooooooong way from bein proven enough to get a title fight. Shamefull
     
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    Shame on 38 year old Vitali for taking on two young undefeated contenders, a former cruiserweight world champion and a once beaten heavyweight contender within 14 months. He should pick on fighters his own age like Rahman, Toney, Byrd and Holyfield, and fight less frequently. That´s what boxing truly needs. :pray:
     
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    Peter and Gomez were good fights, no complaint here, but fighting unproven guy's like Jonshon and Arreola ( who is Johsnon biggest win ???? Devin Vargas ???? ) back to back is a farce. Has UGTBK hacked your account ????
     
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    And let's not try to claim that V.K. has no other options


    After negotiations with Vitali Klitschko had fallen through because he would not get back to us, we were looking for a new opponent for Niko,â€￾ Team Sauerland General Manager Chris Meyer
     
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    You think he ducked Valuev? :lol:
     
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    You're absolutely right. I'm going to root for Vitali simply because he's white and Johnson is black. Fuck patriotism, embrace racism.
     
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    I find this fight interesting because how will Vitali handle a guy with a good jab. Most heavyweights don't have a jab anymore, but Johnson is has a Holmeseque style of jab, and some firepower when he wants to use it.

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    Johnson is not a good opponent and beating an unproven guy is no merit for Vitali. Everybody knows that.

    But please, give us the names. Who should Vitali be fighting at this point? Which opponent would you be satisfied with? With Povetkin injured and Haye&Valuev just fought (Valuev has never wanted any part with either Klitschko) who should he fight?

    This is a stay-busy fight. Nothing more, but not worse than Holyfield-Cooper, Holmes-Frank, Tyson-Douglas or Ali-Coopman
     
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    Jab only won't beat Vitali. Larry Donald had a good jab and he didn't win a round. Let's see if Johnson has anything more to offer
     
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    The Johnson that Ruiz beat was an undefeated challenger, a huge favorite over Ruiz, a young fighter in his prime, in fine physical form and totally confident in himself.
    The Johnson that Vitaly beat was a broken man, both mentally and physically, with no confidence whose skills eroded immensely, after the beating Ruiz laid down on him.
    But, alas, Vitaly does have a history on feasting on Ruiz's leftovers--witness his fight with Kirk Johnson, and (unsuccesfull) attempts to fight Rahman and McCline, all fighters that were defeated by Ruiz.
     
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    The guy who called him out years ago, and the guy on whose leftovers Vitaly loves to feast--John Ruiz.
     
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    This reminds me of a Free Ike quote (direct quote)

    "Bruce Seldon has the greatest jab in HW history"
     
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    From the article I posted, it seems that Valueve wanted a part of Vitaly and that it's Vitaly who in fact, didin't want any. From the top of my head, Ruiz, Chambers, Valuev, Haye ( it seems these two would have fought Vitaly had they been offered credible $$$ ) Tua and even Maskaev ( sure it's a shit choice but at least it would clear his mandantory ) are better opponents than Johsnon, and in the meanwhile, Johnson may get the experience and achievements needed to become a top class fighter and a credible challenger for a world title

    The difference between guys like Holmes, tyson, Ali and Holy is that these guy's fought everyone and pretty much cleared their division. Vitaly, who's probably in a weaker division than any of them were, hasn't even come close in doing so
     
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    I can't say, but what I know is that Valuev, who is far from a killer, would be the best scalp on Vitaly resume by quite a bit.
     
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    You can be sure that HBO would likely prefer Vitaly to fight young guns like Arreola and Johnson rather than retreads like rahman or maskaev. Generally speaking, so would I. The problem is that guys like Johnson or Arreola are not properly tested prior to their big shot. In the case of Arreola, that's the fault of HBO - they showcased him plenty of times against poor opposition and told us he was ready when he patently wasn't. In the case of Johnson, whether its his promoter's fault or whatever, he hasn't been battle-tested nearly enough.
     
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    Holyfield fought Foreman, Cooper and Holmes. Cleaning his division? Hardly. Also, take a look a who Holmes did not fight late in his championship reign.

    The examples you gave work both ways: Vitali would have fought Haye if Haye had the guts. Valuev hasn't exactly been eager to clean the division (everybody says thatin interviews, the fact that Valuev fought three bouts between manadory defenses speaks otherwise). Ruiz is a manadory for WBA so I don't believe he wants this fight now and Tua has not done anything.

    Sure, there are bunch of guys out there but you can not fight everybody and it is not like somebody had clearly deserved a top spot. The two most interesting contenders, Povetkin and Haye, both agreed to fight Wladimir and both backed out
     
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    I meant in their career. Holyfield was severly critisized for facing these guy's and deservedly so. But he proved his worth by figting everyone later on, something that Vitaly, who's 38, can't do.

    Ruiz was willing to face Wlad at short notice even when he was the number1 contender for I'm pretty sure he would accept to fight Vitaly if given proper $$$. It`s obvious Haye wants to fight the Kiltshko, he just wants to be payed for it and not have to sign a 1000000000 conditions contract to do it. Tua just obliterated Cameron who, while a can, is probably better than anyone on Johson record who`s littered with nobody`s. Chambers would accept the fight in a heartbeat in all probability. So let`s not pretend that Vitaly has no other options than Johnson


    Sure you can`t fight everyone out there, but you can fight the best available. And while who that may be isn`t necessarely clear, it`s very clear that this guy is not Kevin Johnson and that they are more than a few guy`s out there who are more deserving and proven than him.
     

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