Manny's 1.25 million buys means Floyd....

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Trey KO, Nov 20, 2009.

  1. Trey KO

    Trey KO WBC Champion

    Will have to play it down the middle at the very least. Floyd's always talking about being the biggest draw. This fight of Pacquiao's, proves that Floyd continues to be dillusional about his drawing power and popularity.

    Just like he was the reason for the big numbers with the ODH fight!:laughing:

    I know his fragile ego is feeling it after seeing Pac's numbers.

    I guess boxing fans are smarter than Floyd thinks. They buy quality fights with true historical significance, and don't buy in as much to the "beating every lil man out there" extravaganzas.

    Let's have a fight!:warning:
     
  2. Joe King

    Joe King WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    This has been discussed already. The facts are that PBF has had better PPV sales against common opponents.

    Like Cotto didn't do anything for the buyrate....
     
  3. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

    Yea but Marquez had a whole country behind him...
     
  4. dymipepel

    dymipepel Im Banned

    So did PBF.
     
  5. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Miguel Cotto contributed big to these numbers. Pac had a dance partner where PBF didnt have much with Marquez.
     
  6. Marvelous1

    Marvelous1 Scrub

    While PPV buys are both impressive what is most impressive is that Pacquiao vs Cotto generated $20 Million MORE in total revenue. According to my calculations that mean Manny deserves a 60-40 split in his favor when facing Floyd.
     
  7. dymipepel

    dymipepel Im Banned

    What split, according to your calculations, does Manny deserve in view of his revenue against ODLH, as compared to PBF's revenue against ODLH?
     
  8. Marvelous1

    Marvelous1 Scrub

    Yes, Floyd deserved a 60-40 split back in 2007, welcome to 2009 however!
     
  9. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    :lol:
     
  10. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    can't have it both ways...

    Floyd routinely walks around saying "I sold 2.4 million PPV's" without the context of Oscar and yet Manny's numbers are because of Cotto.

    :slap:
     
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    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    Please don't just repeat what Ellerbe said. Thanks.
     
  12. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    Agreed.

    You're only as good as your last fight/PPV.
     
  13. Hitman

    Hitman Undisputed Champion

    But Floyd can walk around saying "I sold 2.4m vs. Oscar compared to 1.25m for Manny v Oscar" - and he can quote their other common opponents and he has outsold him - domestically of course - as well.
     
  14. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    50/50 is fair. it will get done.
     
  15. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    And when Pac says, "I looked better against them" it comes back fuill circle.

    Janet Jackson wrote a song which sums up everything...

    Manny pulled in more dollars...there's no disputing that.
     
  16. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Mayweather Promotion's unofficial spokesperson. :lol:

    In fact that wouldn't be a bad job for you, Neil. You'd be the only likeable guy on the payroll.

    :cheer:
     
  17. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Exactly...

    Cotto has PROVEN PPV Drawing Ability, as Witnessed by his Fights w/Zab, Sugar Shane AND Margarito...NEITHER Of those Guys Could Sell SHIT to Flies, yet they EACH had Fairly SUCCESSFUL PPV's w/Cotto...

    Only a CERTIFIED Pacquiao NUTHUGGER Would Act as if Pac was SOLELY Responsible for the 1.25 that the Cotto Fight Sold...& AGAIN, REED Will Reference Cotto's MSG Presence for those that DARE to Act as if Marquez is Anywhere CLOSE to the Draw that Cotto is...



    REED:hammert:
     
  18. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    Im a swell bloke.
     
  19. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    Before the Mayweather fight, Marquez was arguably #2 Pfp in the world. His destruction of Casa and Diaz were terrific. Who knows what those PPV numbers had to do with Marquez. He was never given a chance to be on PPV. AFter those two fights, i would have paid to see Marquez fight. Im sure many would too.
     
  20. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles



    does anyone really think mayweather jr vs cotto would not have done or exceeded 1.25million buys?

    lets not forget another key factor, top rank are better promoters than gbp. that has to add some buys.
     
  21. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    WHERE was this Country's Support UNTIL he Fought Mayweather???...



    REED:dunno:
     
  22. The Genius

    The Genius DEMONRY!!

    If anyone deserves more of the split it's Manny as per Musze's reference to Janet.

    That being said, 50-50 is more than fair when you consider that this fight is going to be massive. Either guy flinches about taking half then he's a disgrace.
     
  23. Hitman

    Hitman Undisputed Champion

    What if Floyd fought Cotto next and KO'd him in 6 rounds!?!

    I honestly don't know how to argue or dispute the "Manny pulled in more dollars" statement...
     
  24. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Of Course it WOULD'VE...1.5 @ LEAST, but More like 1.75 Buys...



    REED:hammert:
     
  25. Hitman

    Hitman Undisputed Champion

    Doesn't Cotto have a whole country backing him also? The difference being that Cotto actually had/has a solid PPV backing in the USA as WELL?
     
  26. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    No. It would not have. Ha ha ha. Now you guys are controlling for how good promoters are? Ha ha ha. You guys are die hard. Geeze. Why don't you just admit it - no matter what happened, PBF, in your eyes, deserves the bigger piece of the pie.
     
  27. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    UNLESS U have 3 OTHER PPV's vs. COMMON OPPONENTS, that OUTSOLD your Next Potential Foe...HISTORY TELLS US that Floyd Mayweather is THE BIGGER DRAW, Brother MWS...& if Pac had OUTSOLD Floyd vs. COMMON OPPONENTS, REED has NO DOUBT that U'd AGREE w/that Premise 100%....



    REED:hammert:
     
  28. Hitman

    Hitman Undisputed Champion

    I wouldn't put an exact figure on it - but Floyd-Cotto would have exceeded 1.25 million buys, imo
     
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    It's all speculation. I think if Floyd fought Cotto recently, ie after the Marquez PPV, it would have done no more than the Marquez PPV, possibly less.
     
  30. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    "Ha Ha Ha"???...TYPEWRITTEN "Laughter" is LAME...This Site Comes Equipped w/LAUGHING SMILEY's, U Know???...



    REED:hammert:
     

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