Moving on... Kessler-Ward: Final Predictions

Kessler should win but Ward is coming into his own. people forget that the fight is in Oakland. I dont' know how they managed to get Kessler to come to Oakland and defend his tittle there.

That might play a part if it's a close decision.

 

Those guys were older than the fossils you see in museum.

and RJJ was not a really adaptable fighter in his prime also.

 

First part is true. Second part, I'd disagree - Jones adapted fine in the Griffin first fight, changed his strategy entirely in the rematch, and you have to remember that plenty of the opponents he faced would come out with a particular strategy to nullfy him specifically, whether it was being extra cagey like Griffin or all out aggression like Sosa, but he got over it regardless each time (apart from tarver)

 

REED's Been PURPOSELY Avoiding this Topic....The FACT is, REED ISN"T High on EITHER of these Guys...

Kessler's More PROVEN, but BASIC Almost to a FAULT....Ward has More DIMENSIONS, Including Snap & Crackle, but NO POP...& Despite the Miranda Fight, REED STILL Questions Ward's Chin...REED is INTERESTED in the Fight but has NO TRUE Feeling Either Way...The ONLY Thing REED Knows for Certain is that NEITHER of these Fighters will WIN the Super 6 Tourney...

REED is Leaning Towards Ward More, Because of the Versatility...It's Conceivable that he Could OUTJAB Kessler (& if that's the Case, Kessler will LOSE a WIDE UD), he'll Likely Befuddle Kessler w/his Speed, Angles, Flurries & Switching from Southpaw to Ortho Repeatedly...Kessler has the Proverbial PUNCHER'S Chance but that's It...Ward has GOOD Supermiddle SIZE as Well...He WON'T B Dwarfed by Kessler like Alot of Others have Been...

REED is Expecting Ward to Use CalzaghESQUE Elements en Route to a Decision...& w/the Fight Being in Ward's Backyard, he'll Get the BENEFIT of Every Close Round...

Ward by Decision...NOT Exciting, yet CLEAR-CUT...7-5, 8-4 Type of Verdict...



REED:hammert:

 

Bold statement by REED :kidcool:

Especially considering Kessler is considered the favourite by most to win the tournament.

As you probably know REED, I've never been that high on Kessler either.

Very good fighter, very solid fighter, not many flaws, but I expected Calzaghe to beat him clearly. Joe just did what I expected. I was amazed at how many people picked Kessler at the time, some even saying Joe had no chance of winning ::

But despite that, I still feel Kessler is better than the other 5, and expect him to win this tournament.

 

What a surprise. Reed the know-nothing, whose talked up ARthur fucking Abraham, thinks lowly of Mikkel Kessler. So who does this objective analyst take in this match-up, why the black american fighter of course. Its good to see years of watching boxing and being objective 2% of your life hasn't ruined the true nature hiding behind this ridiculous 3rd person alias.

Kessler is so much better than the poop you've highlighted so far its ridiculous. Kudos on continued objectivity, and lets just highlight this statement for when Kessler wins this weekend/annihilates your mancrush Abraham

 

I think this fight is is competitive in the early rounds, with Ward's speed giving Mikkel trouble. But eventually I see Ward fading while Kessler gets his timing down and picks him apart. My prediction is a Kessler stoppage anywhere from Round 7 - 12.

 

Kessler TKO 8

 

Mister REED, who for the record I respect as a boxing fan, picked Kessler to KO Calzaghe inside eleven rounds. In light of this information and this information alone, I consider his views on ANY Kessler fight to be of lesser value.

Mister REED might not be 'sold' on Kessler now, but he was suitably 'sold' on him to pick him to ICE Calzaghe. I wonder how much that decision and subsequent result plays on his mind when he chooses to 'ignore' this fight but make a pick against Mikkel nonetheless...

MTF :fightme:

 

Here's the crack...

If you take the Calzaghe fight away, then Kessler is the CLEAR FUCKING FAVOURITE for this tourney. He beat the shit out of everyone he has fought, including Beyer (by KO3), Andrade (by brutal 12 round decision) and Mundine (by clear, CLEAR decision). He's lost about 15 rounds in total in 40 fights.

Mister REED knows this as does anyone who has followed boxing for the last few years. That was why many sensible boxing fans picked him to beat Calzaghe: it was very much a 50-50 fight in fact. Halfway through, Kessler was winning- hurting Joe with hard uppercuts and seemingly on the verge of a career defining win

Joe adapted as he does and pulled out a deserved win. So be it. That he could do because he was a superiour fighter.

Kessler is basic. He does the fundamentals well. He does them so well that he beats the shit out of anyone who isn't good enough to adapt to what he does. Only Calzaghe has done that thus far. What the hell has Ward done to suggest that he is GOOD enough to do likewise?

MTF :dunno:

 

@ the Time, Calzaghe had the Lacy Fight EXCLUSIVELY as "Proof" of his Greatness...So Let's NOT Pretend that Calzaghe was as ACCEPTED as he Is Now, AFTER Wins Over Kessler, Bernard & Roy....

& Since U DARE to Call REED Out on Some Bullshit, should YOUR Floyd Mayweather Opinions ALSO B Of "Lesser Value"???...After All, YOU STILL Cling to the FALLACY of Hatton Potentially Being MORE Competitive w/Floyd a Mere 7 Pounds LIGHTER than the Weight where Floyd Wiped his Ass w/him @:shit:....

U're ALOT More Biased AGAINST Floyd, After a DECISIVE, KO WIN Over YOUR Favorite Fighter @ the Time, than U ACCUSE REED of Being in Regards to Kessler, after he MEEKLY Accepted a Decision LOSS in a Fight that he was WINNING @ the Midpoint...

Bottom Line, if U're Gonna POINT Fingers @ REED, B Aware that SOME of those Fingers R Pointing BACK AT YOU, Mr. Feebles...



REED:shit:

 

For me, I would be guessing if I picked Ward. He has done nothing and his best win is over the awful Edison Miranda who is a glorified clubfighter with overrated power. He didn't look so hot either doing it. Kessler is the known quality and he has had a decent career thus far. That said, just because Ward has done nothing doesn't mean he is nothing.I am picking Kessler, but not arrogantly because Ward is an unknown and I am not will to say X=suck at this point.

Kessler lost to Calzaghe and in a far more competetive fashion than did Jones or Hopkins.

 

I make no excuses for my nuthuggery where it is, Mister REED. For the record, the ONLY fight I haven't picked Mayweather to win was the Hatton fight, and even then I made it extremely clear that the pick I made was a ' heart over head' pick. That said, I also am on record as expressing my extreme DISLIKE of Floyd, and of course people are entitled to draw conclusions from that dislike as they see fit.

This does not detract from the FACT that you picked Kessler to KO Calzaghe. You did so confidently, in fact. Then, when Kessler lost to Joe, having showed up well but being ultimately outdone by a boxer/fighter with one more gear than he had, you deserted him, and have since bulwarked your pick by making yourself Kessler's biggest detractor, turning out in threads claiming that you 'couldn't understand why kessler was annointed the No.1 at 168' and now, incredibly, describing tomorrows fight as one involving two guys who wont win the Super Six, in spite of the fact that Kessler is the bookies favourite... :shit:

Kessler BURNT Mister REED and Mister REED does not forget that fact. I understand the angst, but when I see bullshit, I call bullshit.

MTF :warning:

 

Unfortunately for some it seems, despite the fact that Kessler is white, he will win this fight and the tourney.

 

So REED is ENTITLED to Go Along w/the "Bookies Favorite" Now???::...FUCK that....REED is HIS OWN Man, Mr. Feebles & the FACT is, Kessler TACITLY Gave Up in the Calzaghe Fight...SURE, Joe Made ADJUSTMENTS, but then Kessler MEEKLY Capitulated w/Out @ Least TRYING a Plan B himself...

& If U're OPENLY Telling REED Kessler DOESN'T have a Plan B, WHY R U Soooo MENSTRUAL about REED picking Andre Ward, a More VERSATILE Fighter than Kessler???:dunno:...U Speak as if REED Offered Up ZERO Reasoning & Made an EMOTIONAL Pick or Something...The FACT is, REED ISN'T a Ward Fan Either, as Stated N the 1st Sentence of his Prediction...Yet when REED Makes a Pick btwn 2 Guys that he COULDN'T Care Less For, he's BIASED???:shit:.....

AFTER Seeing Calzaghe-Kessler & KNOWING there were Guys like Allan Green, Dirrell, Ward, Froch, Bute, etc. @ 168, it PUZZLED REED that Kessler was AUTOMATICALLY Annointed as "The Man" Based on a Clear-Cut LOSS...Was Anybody CROWNING Bernard Hopkins Immediately After Roy Jones BEAT him & Moved Up???...Of Course Not...

UNlike YOU, if Kessler Proves REED WRONG, U WON'T Here ANY BULLSHIT about how Ward Would've Fared BETTER had Kessler Fought in @ 160, that's for Sure....



REED:shit:

 

:laughing:

 

How is Ward more versatile. That is fucking ridiculous. To say he might be more versatile is one thing, but to state it as fact is silly. Ward hasn't done anything in his career. Nothing. You shit on Kessler's career even though it is 1000 times better. Ward has beaten no one and Miranda who always sucked and was shot when Ward fought.

 

Hopkins doesn't adjust for shit to be frank, he never could adjust to Jermaine Taylor and he never will, there's that saying that the masterful legend makes you 'fight his fight' and mysteriously 'reduces opponents workrates down to a crawl' ... I can reveal sort of exclusively how he does that,.. you see, you gots to chase him in order for there to be a fight at all, and when you do, it's 'his fight' ..so as the time drains out, chasing him around the ring, and every now and then you put in the hard yards to corner the bitch,......... CERRRRRRLINCHHHHHHHHHHH,............... tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock.. bing! .. How do we score dat?.. I know,.. there was one or two pot shots that looked 'clean and hard' ...and, you gotta give it to Hops coz, he covered the whole ring 15 times over and that means 'generalship'.

 

::::Amen.

 

I agree with Ike.

Ward could very well turn out to be better than many of us think.

But in a situation between a solid, proven fighter at world level and someone like Ward who's beaten nobody, I'll go with the proven fighter every time - it's just common sense.

Unless of course there is a HUGE disparity in skill/talent, and I don't think there is in this case.

 

Or unless you see a weakness in the champ that the challenger has the skills to exploit.

 

Ward's chin is going to be exposed. This time by an actual world class fighter.

 

No and neither was Darnell Boone.::

 

Ward's historically poor chin will be discovered tonight.

 

Gotta go with Kessler. Too much experience. Too many skills.

Kessler UD with one knockdown (118 -109 x2, 117-110)

 

I believe Ward is going to win a very close fight.. I think alot of ya'll are sleeping on Ward...

 

Dudes, when is this fight due to start?

 

10 EST

 

That doesn't mean much to me ::

I more meant, approximately how many hours? 2.5?