Pac refusing drug tests...fight in jeopardy

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  1. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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  2. adamiw

    adamiw Undisputed Champion

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    Some quotes from Freddie:

    http://www.secondsout.com/news?ccs=1625&cs=126536

    "The thing is, I talked to the drug testing people today and I said,’Can you guarantee me that Manny wont have to give blood the day before the fight?’ They said no. I said,’Then we can’t do the test.’" He added later,"We go by the commission rules, the sanctioning body rules. Mayweather doesn’t make the rules, we don’t work for Mayweather. He needs us, we don’t need him."

    "Where else is he( Mayweather) going to go get the kind of money that he wants?. I think it’ll happen."

    "Well, we’ve passed every drug test that we’ve ever had for every fight. We tested every time. So there’s no history in that. Manny Pacquiao, I mean, I have trouble giving him protein shakes and and vitamins," stated Roach."HGH, he doesn’t even know what that means. But that’s peoples opinion. I don’t care what people think, I know I have a clean fighter."
     
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    This is just PBF trying to get out of the fight.
     
  4. Streetfighter

    Streetfighter WBC Champion

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    They are blood doping. Clear as day to me. They don't mind the urine test but do mind the blood test. What a cluster fuck...


    The biggest fight of 2010 — Manny Pacquiao vs. Floyd Mayweather — could be off.
    Early Tuesday evening, Golden Boy Promotions, which represented Mayweather in negotiations, distributed a press release that said the March 13 bout was in "jeopardy."
    Reached late Tuesday night, Bob Arum of Top Rank, which promotes the Filipino, took it a step further.
    "The plug is pulled. The fight is off as far as we're concerned," he said, adding that he expects Pacquiao to fight on that date and is seeking a new opponent.
    Mayweather (40-0, 25 KOs) has demanded drug testing as required by the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency which includes random blood and urine sampling. Pacquiao (50-3-2 38 KOs), however, will not agree to have his blood taken within 30 days of the bout. He did agree to have his blood taken before the press conference to kick off the promotion and after the bout.
    "The press release is absurd," said Arum, Mayweather's former promoter. "Mayweather proves that he's a coward and he's looking for a way out of the fight. The Nevada commission has been doing drug testing for the last 40 years. To appease Mayweather, we agreed they could do urine analysis anytime they wanted. But Manny doesn't want them to draw his blood when he's in training because it weakens him."

    "All they're doing is harassing Pacquiao. I'm not going to allow it to happen," Arum said. "We're willing to do urine analysis at random even though we don't have to do it under Nevada rules. … I know deep down Mayweather doesn't want the fight. He can take a walk."
     
  5. Beyond the Grave

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    Floyd's on his knee's hoping he doesn't take the test...but I do agree Manny needs to get this out the way
     
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    Even "On his Knees", Floyd would B TALLER than Manny Pac...



    REED:shit:
     
  7. Neil

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    are you really dumb enough to believe that?
    i know you are
     
  8. Erratic

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    This shit is even on the front page of yahoo.

    Eventually it should blow over and Pacquiao will agree to it.

    It just looks really bad if the fight doesn't take place because he refused to take an extra drug test.
     
  9. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Wow,.. :nono: ,... you resent steroids so much,.. but yet you're hoping it 'all blows over' ..
     
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    More quotes from Roach

    http://www.8countnews.com/news/125/ARTICLE/2168/2009-12-22.html
     
  11. Fighter

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    Nice going. As of now the fight is officially OFF with both camps blaming each other.Whose demands are making the fight impossible to happen? Who is at FAULT here?Pacquaio AGREES to urine analysis ANYTIME. He AGREES to blood tests prior to first press conference and after the fight but not DURING training. Don't fuck with my training man!
     
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  12. KaukipRrr

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    Who's at fault?.. perhaps it's the super-powered little juicer?... If Fraud is willing to do the same tests aswell,.. what's the problem?.. it's good for boxing,.. Maybe this will become the staple for every fight,.. no more cheating little scum who's a big business generator,.. Jew Arum - "I'll kill you, I'll kill all of you!.. you dont mess with a mans money!" ,..is what he more or less said,...

    aaaaahhhhhh refreshing.
     
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    But they'd still be the same size.:lol:
     
  14. Fighter

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    So NOW the CURRENT Nevada Commission's drug testing is inadequate? Any of Mayweather's fights against Judah, Corley brusseles, Baldomir are now jeopardizing his LEGACY?
     
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    Floyd doesn't think he can beat roided manny.:nono:
     
  16. KaukipRrr

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    Yes, it clearly is,.. I hope this kind've heavy olympic styled testing will send a ripple through all the other cheating scum in this sport,... Now who really should have a problem with this?... Pacquiao groupies?
     
  17. Fighter

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    Now the whole world is imperfect since Pacquaio has become the best fighter in the world. He is not human.What Mayweather wants is DISRUPT Pacquaio's training with random blood testing that could happen ONE day before the fight. You brought up the word SCUM...
     
  18. KaukipRrr

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    Fraud's training sessions will be equally disrupted, there's no disadvantage,.. As it turns out, Pacquioa is cheating scum,..and as it also turns out,.. Roach and Arum are in on it,..
     
  19. Fighter

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    Hey man, I'm not stopping you. Go ahead, CARRY the water...
     
  20. KaukipRrr

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    Yes, I'm a known Fraud fan,.. can you tell? :crafty:
     
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    It'll "blow over" when Pacquiao agrees to it.

    It'll simply look too shady if he doesn't. Imagine how bad it would look if the sport's biggest fight didn't take place if he refused to take a blood test before the fight.
     
  22. Fighter

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    I know that you have been a CRITIC but you are carrying the water in this instance...
     
  23. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Yes it shall,.. and if he agrees to it,..atleast we will know that both are clean come fight time,.. But it's irreparably shady right now, I think it's pretty clear from the wild and bewildered reaction from Arum, Roach and Pacquioa and thier threats to cancel the fight over a mutual drug testing request,.. has exposed what alot of people suspected,.. he's a super-powered juicer, and a big revenue generator,..and I wish there was some way for his last 3 opponents in particular to sue all involved. The sport will be better for it,.. and for one day in my life,.. I have actually liked Fraud Mayweather, and he's accidentally set a good precedent, because his intention wasn't to benefit the sport ofcourse.
     
  24. KaukipRrr

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    I know his intention is self-serving,.. but Im thinking about how it could restructure the clenliness of the sport when it comes to performance enhancers,.
     
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    In Finland honesty has always been held in great value. Then our whole skiing team with four national icons got busted from doping. That opened my eyes.

    There is a reason why fighters don't want to be tested ruing training seasons
     
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    Yeah but there's a major point that you're missing here.. it's not like these tests are required by the sanctioning body. Manny and his team have already agreed to the point of going above and beyond what is required of them, they just don't want to go to the point of having needles stuck in him daily, and playing into Mayweathers bullshit games. Since when the fuck should any fighter have to agree to any rules outside the rules of boxing, just to make the fight happen ?? If Mayweather won't fight under the rules of the sport he is in, then get the fuck out of the sport. I agree with Arum and Roach this is complete crap.
     
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    the fight will happen. you guys are drama queens
     
  28. The Genius

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    If Floyd agrees to take the same tests on the same dates then there really shouldn't be a problem.

    EDIT: Although I do believe that it's not Floyd or his camps business to be ordering anyone to take drug tests. This should be mandated by the proper authorities.
     
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    Meh- they shpold allow the fight wothout testing-BUT if Pacman ever wins the cruiserweight title, i'm gonna get suspicious.
     
  30. ElTerriblee

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    Disrupting his training by taking a little bit of blood 30 days before the fight, which would take like 10 minutes. :lol:

    He wants to make sure Pacquiao is as clean as possible when the fight happens, and extra blood testing especially a little time before the fight, is obviously more effective than urine testing alone. And he wants another test the day after the fight to make sure Pacquiao doesn´t take stuff after the first test. If Arum/Pacquiao refuse the cat is out of the bag. There are no two ways about it. Funny enough Pacquiao started it with his stupid "10 million dollar penalty for every pound over 147" request like Mayweather has EVER not made weight. Mayweather laughed at that request, apparently Manny ain´t laughing.
     

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