Arum says Pacquiao agrees to Olympic style drug test...

the bottom line is Pacquiao has every right to tell PBF to go fuck off. and his doing should in no way implicate him.

 

The thing is, Pac has already agreed to the most stringent testing applied to ANY Boxing World Championship bout and it's still not enough for Floyd and Ellerbe.

Floyd looks scared to me.

 

is anyone surprised PBF is looking for a way out of the fight?

 

You really believe this is an unreasonable request, that they both be tested strongly for illegal substances?... Had Fraud not accepted the 10 million dollar 1 lb penalty, what would the board have the right to think?... Ahhh, he plans on coming in heavier!!! ... Along the exact same lines, Fraud has the right to ensure Pacquiao doesn't have any juice in his system, ..and what are we to think when Pacquiao refuses?... .. "Fuck you Floyd! waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!" ,...oh?... I see

 

Except the fact that Floyd in just his previous bout flaunted weight requirements he signed for contractually. The $10,000,000 per pound request doesn't seem so out of place in that context.

Conversely, Manny has never tested positive for any banned substances in over a dozen world championship bouts.

 

Kauki - I'm not saying I don't think Pac is roiding (I have no idea, but I hope not obviously). But I think PBF would have more right to make this demand if Pacman had been caught juicing before. Then it would be much more of a fair demand.

Not just because "Pacman is better than he should be at the higher weights".

He's never been caught juicing before, so innocent until proven guilty.

For example, the Pacman's camp admittedly ludicrous clause of 10 million per pound was probably in response to Floyd coming in higher than contracted against Marquez.

 

yeh but...Mayweather would take the exact same tests that Pacqious has to

what's unfair about this

 

Why should Floyd step into the place of the NSAC? That's what is wrong with this.

What if Floyd wants to wear 16oz gloves next? Or shorten the fight to 6 rounds?

Why not? Who needs an athletic commission setting standards when fighters are able to. ::

 

So he should have no issues with the most sophisticated drug testing system in the world, it's no reason to pull out of a monsterous fight at 5 minutes to midnight with everything else in the contract agreed on and ready to go?... Wont he want the absolute strongest assurance of knowing that there's nothing illegal in Fraud's blood that would give him an unfair advantage in the ring?... Afterall,.. the commision testing has been exposed to frequent failures before.

Instead, Pacquiao has pulled out instantly.

 

Arum has made another response on Fightnews.com. Check it out.

Basically, he says they're not opposed to testing.

He says they will do blood tests in January, February and immediately following the fight, and that they'll do random urine tests.

Some Dr. is stating that all performance enhancing drugs can be detected in urine.

 

hair sampling is much more effective than weak urine and blood tests commonly administered.

pacquiao shaving his head soon? ::

the drug people are always a step ahead of the drug testers.

 

I can think of 25 million reasons why it should implicate him.

 

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In response to the release sent out Tuesday by Mayweather Promotions and Golden Boy Promotions which stated that Mayweather vs. Pacquiao was “in jeopardy,â€￾ Bob Arum, chairman of Top Rank, the promoter of seven-division world champion Manny Pacquiao, had the following to say: “Let’s be very clear on the real issues we differ on. It’s not about being tested. Manny is onboard with that since it’s such a major concern of Floyd Mayweather, Jr. It’s about who does the testing and the scheduling of the procedures. Manny will submit to as many random urine tests requested. Regarding the blood tests, he will subject himself to three tests; one given in January during the week the fight is formally announced, one thirty days from the fight, no later than February 13, and the final one immediately following the fight, in Manny’s locker room. The major issue related to the testing rests with which independent agency will administer these tests. The United States Anti Doping Agency (USADA) cannot do it because they will not amend its procedures to accommodate the blood testing schedule we have outlined. USADA, under its guidelines, would have the right to administer random blood tests as many times as they want up to weigh-in day and that is ludicrous.
“Our suggestion is to utilize any of the independent agencies that work with the National Football League, the National Basketball Association or Major League Baseball, since they administer drug testing for their professional athletes.â€￾
New York-based athletic physician, Dr. Keith Pyne, a private injury consultant for NFL athletes and those who participate in running and combat sports, told AOL Fanhouse,
“I have more than 800 guys who are special athletes who are all drug-tested. And the urine testing is sufficient that you won’t miss anything, especially with performance-enhancing drugs. So, yes, I believe that the urine testing is more than sufficient for boxing. If you’re using steroids, it’s going to come up for sure in urine. There’s no way it’s going to get through the liver and the kidney without being detected.â€￾
“If Mayweather Promotions and Golden Boy Promotions are sincere in creating ‘a level playing field,’ as they stated in their release, our recommendations should put their minds at ease,â€￾ said Arum. “If not, one has to wonder if their motives are more about leveling the fight.â€￾

 

I think this proposition by Arum is a fair compromise.....now lets settle it!

 

It's also the most stringent testing ever imposed on a world championship bout. If Floyd doesn't agree to this, he's running.

 

Agreed. The full Olympic testing procedure was a tad excessive in the lead up to a mega fight - up to 16 RANDOM blood tests, interrupting training and recovery schedules and even more urine tests. 3 blood tests spread out and frequent urine tests should really be seen as SUFFICIENT to establish a fighters who's never been caught doping in dozens of previous title fights' innocence and certainly stands as a very reasonable compromise in this circumstance given that Floyd is making demands above and beyond the rules of the sport.

Lets get the fight back on.

 

I think it's a fair compromise too. Pacman is agreeing to go above and beyond what is normally required. Random urine tests and 3 blood tests.

Let's see what Flid's response is :kidcool:

By the way Hut, I totally agree. I mean I don't like the idea of steroids at all, but that many tests does seem excessive and disruptive.

 

This is far beyond what any other fighter has had to go through in the lead up to a championship bout.

REED's response:

 

It is outrageous to expect a pro boxer to accept and agree to the same testing that a mere amateur olympian has to go through. Outrageous.

At least this isn't a big money fight with historical significance. If it was, I'd really be ticked off at such a bullshit demand.

 

Roy Jones vs John Ruiz had considerable historical significance, albeit that the Heavy in question was one as bummish as Ruiz.

Dont remember Ruiz asking for any testing above and beyond the usual......

 

okay......

 

your boy is getting his ass whipped, balut breath

 

Yeah...the usual limp response.

Roy was moving up just under 50lbs from his Lt-Mdl...testing..testing...1-2-3

Sauce for the Goose and all that.

 

why would ruiz care? he was getting paid triple or quadruple his career best payday. you think he'd blow that?

 

Hey Neil, I know you've liked Floyd for years, but I clearly remember you saying both after Oscar and Marquez that Floyd was surprisingly unimpressive.

You're still confident he beats Pacquiao?

 

I've heard this before.

 

Why would Floyd care? He has dem debts.......since when did Floyd want a fair fight? Since dem days when he had to come up with extra for Marquez cos he snuck a few extra pounds onto the scales?

 

This is also Floyd's best career payday.

 

random urine test...and 3 blood test should be enough....

 

By the way in all seriousness, I think Floyd is far less confident of victory than usual.

Now one way of looking at this demand would be headgames, but another way would be that he sees Manny as a scary opponent, and wants to make damn sure he's not on Roids.

If Floyd was that confident of victory, I think the cooler approach would have been a casual, arrogant, piss taking angle. Like yeah, I think Manny is on roids, but who gives a shit, I'll beat him up anyway.

If anything Floyd's concerns with Pacman probably makes Pacquiao himself feel more confident, that his recent performances have had such an impact on the Mayweather camp.