Pac just needs to agree.

1. If he was doping prior it won't be questioned if he takes this fight and does not dope even if he loses.

2. If he does lose, so what, he is losing to the bigger fighter and it's expected. If he can't land nobody will question it.

3. If he does not agree he brings everything he has done in the past into question.

4. You can only detect things like hemoglobin, HGH and EPO through blood tests, so there statements about urine detecting everything are BS.


Also as a side note I think Jose L Castillo and JMM used Growth when they moved up. Look at the shape of their head after they moved up.

 

aside from your side note I agree on all counts

 

It's speculation you are right. Especially the giant chin Jose L Castillo had made me suspicious.

Check out the difference http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/06_02/castilloDM_468x780.jpg

http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/74...A77F763DF9CD738265A0E04F0C886A7CFF610D5B4FC25

 

Well he did fly to Philippines to "train" with Pac for the Cotto fight. Maybe he just went there to score?::

 

Mexico has got to be the easiest place to score. I don't think he had to go there for it. I actually fixed the links with better pics after you responded.

 

It simply wont pan out that way. If he gives one inch on this, others will take a fucking mile. I mean, he is declining to take the test and people like Reed are already stripping his trophy cabinet bare. He doesn't bother with Jones, Mosley, Evan Fields though, just Manny Pac.

 

A refusal to take a test is an admission of guilt.

If I had nothing to worry about people could test me 5 times a day if they wanted.

 

Is a refusal to take a lie detector an admission of guilt?

If so, why bother with the trial? Just pRocEED to sentencing?

 

It should be, as the only reason you would want to refuse would be that you would fail.


All Pac has to to is take some tests, no problem, sports people all over the world have to take random tests frequently.

 

So why would you proceed to trial, you have your definitive answer right there......

 

Yep...That's the Bottom Line Here...If U're CLEAN, yet Someone is Suggesting U're NOT, U Want to PROVE that U ARE CLEAN...U Want to Leave NO Room for DOUBT about Whether U're a CLEAN Athlete or Not...



REED:hammert:

 

If U're Part of a Criminal Investigation & U REFUSE a Lie Detector Test, U'd BEST BELIEVE the Po-Po will INTENSIFY their Interrogation of U...By Refusing a Lie Detector, U'd Become the LEAD Suspect, if U Weren't Already...




REED:hammert:

 

There is no admission of guilt, except the one you so desperately want to exist. As I said, if Floyd wasn't involved here, Reed wouldn't be either.

 

There's an "Admission" of Wanting to HIDE Something Though...If Floyd WASN'T Involved, yet Pac was STILL REFUSING like this, REED Would React the SAMEfuckingWAY...

U've BARELY Been Back 2 Weeks, Homegirl...In the 12 MONTHS U were Standing w/your Nose in the Corner, REED has CRITICIZED Floyd on MANY Levels...Professional AND Personal...




REED:shit:

 

Floyd was retired for much of that period. For the rest, he was fighting Marquez.:laughing::laughing: I love your timing.

Your record of chasing down suspected substance abusers is rather patchy.

Unless there was some Anti-Evander campaign that slipped by unnoticed.:crafty:

 

so does that mean PBF is afraid of every opponent he's refused to face? since even in the face of allegations that he was afraid of Margarito, Cotto, Mosley and every other worthy welterweight, he failed to fight even one of them?

 

So YOU Actually BOUGHT Floyd's "Retirement"???...:laughing::laughing::shit:

REED's been OPENLY Criticizing the Whole "Money May" Image Since DELA/FLOYD 24/7....REED's Been CALLING "Bullshit" on Floyd's "Retirement" Sent the DAY he Announced it & CRITICIZING him for WASTING Some of his PRIME Boxing Years...

REED Also Made it KNOWN that JM Marquez was a Decent TUNE-UP Fight,, but that Floyd HAD to Get Back to the ELITE Welter Mix in his Next Bout...& When Floyd DANGLED the Idea of Fighting Dmitry Salita in Yankee Stadium, REED was 1 of MANY Posters DISSING the Notion...

Basically, your Supposition that REED is Some BLIND, Mayweather Groupie is FALSE, JUVENILE & has Been DEFECATED Upon MANY Times Over...& REED DIDN'T Even Mention the Radio Interview w/Rugged Man or whatever his Name was, where Floyd was TORN to Shreds...REED Joined IN on the Reindeer Game of Making FUNNY's @ Floyd's Expense & BASHING him when he Dared to Say "Legacy Don't Pay Bills"....DO your Fucking Homework for a CHANGE.......DIG UP those Particular Threads...

REED Isn't Sure when he FED U Initially, but U're VERY MUCH Like a Stray Cat that Keeps Coming Back for SCRAPS....Come Up for Air, Back AWAY from the Ballsack & Do Some RESEARCH...



REED:hammert:

 

Oh yes, Sean Reed, a bastion of anti-Floyd sentiment and objectivity. Sure.

Reed, you didnt exactly make too much of those "whispers" before Hatton fought Pac.

You like Floyd, you live through Floyd, you are heavily pregnant with Floyds thalidomide babies, but thats cool. We all have our favourites.

Just dont make an asshole out of Manny Pac because of it.:nono: He has his rights- same as the rest of US.

 

Looks like JMM is getting in on the fun too. Claims he would make the same demands on Pac as Floyd is if he gets considered as a Pac opponent.

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=24307

 

Yeah good luck with that Marquez ::

 

Well, sure why not.....if Floyd can win by proxy, Marquez can test by proxy.

 

Why is Marquez even making comments? He's a nobody now.

 

REED?

 

The list of guys that Floyd has failed to face is staggering......but a lot of it has to do with Floyds mentality, rather than his physicality

In his mind, he figures he whups them all so easy, it isn't worth it. Or even worse, he HAS already beaten them, via proxy...or that he is undefeated, so who the fuck are they anyway....

As I said before, Floyd probably isnt physically afraid of Manny Pac, what kills Floyd is the possibility of Manny getting a fast one over on him. Its the gangster mentality. Floyd would sooner lose to a straight Manny than beat up a roiding Manny.....just as long as Manny doesnt get the drop on him.

Thats how Floyd thinks. Floyd has to have the last word, Floyd has to get the biggest slice, Floyds name has to be up in lights longer, Floyd gets the bigger dressing room....etc. He is displaying all the symptoms of advanced Pugilistica MariahCareya.

Manny Pac could check into the Mayo Clinic and allow Nasa to run a fucking probe up his ass, and Floyd would still have a huge, almost impassable ego, and the fight still wouldnt get made.

 

Exclude Margarito & REED CAN'T Disagree w/what U're Saying...



REED:hammert:

 

Because he KNOWS Manny Pac BETTER than Most???...



REED:dunno:

 

I guess Manny ran out of roids after round one of their first fight:laughing:

Either that or he blew himself out, something which was always more likely at a lower weight than the higher ones.

Or maybe JMM was able to come back into it because his opponent didnt have a 20lb weight advantage, a 2" height advantage, a 3" reach advantage etc.....

 

Hmmm...

Former Welterweight Champion, Carlos Palomino, is WONDERING Too...Imagine THAT...

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=24304

REED:hammert:

 

:: Carlos Palomino......I'd say his finger is right on the pulse. Does his Hippie Commune have cable so he can stay close to the action?

Pertinently, Palomino doesn't really say a whole load.....and the question about "manny being at 106 at one point" was in fact addressed by none other than Floyd Mayweather Jr....the "One point" in question was like a decade ago.

It is not the overnight "FLO-JO" change that they are making it out to be.

 

Is Bernard Hopkins Doping?

44, 45 years of age, jumped up 15lbs with no difficulty, beat an established champ and looked by far the stronger, fitter man.......ran Joe Cal close, mauled Pavlik......its a great story....but one has to be...realistic.