Who would fight Pac now?

If he does not agree to this fight nobody will want to fight him. Arum is screwing him.

 

He's Got Options but the Idea that Pac DOESN'T Need Floyd Here is Sheer IDIOCY...WHO ELSE is Pac Gonna Fight to Get the Type of Money he'll Get vs. Floyd???...COMBINED, a 3rd Fight w/Marquez AND a Fight w/Sugar Shane WOULDN'T Equal 1 Payday w/Mayweather...

A Larger Issue is, will OTHER Fighters Follow Suit & DEMAND that Pac Undergo Testing Themselves???...If THAT Happens & Pac CONTINUES to Frown Upon the Process, if he CONTINUES to Behave like he has Something to HIDE, then there can NO Looooooooonger B ANY Doubt that he's on PED's....



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He can't fight anyone else for the same money and recognition as Floyd.

He would get a lot of respect for beating Mosley, especially after Mosley's thrashing of Plasterito, and it would probably be an excellent fight too.

:: At the idea that nobody is going to want to fight Pacquiao. Don't be absurd.

He has never even failed a drug test.

Mosley and Roy HAVE failed drug tests, have you heard of ONE person refusing to fight Roy or Shane because of that? Yet you think suddenly nobody is going to fight Pacman because he hasn't failed a drugs test, but Floyd Sr says he is taking steroids? ::

 

Maybe he Could Fight Carlos Palomino...

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=24304



REED:hammert:

 

Carlos Palomino did a 3000 word interview with boxing monthly {magazine in the UK} and from the 1st sentence to the 2nd last sentence he spelled out how much trouble Oscar was in vs Tito Trinidad in their upcoming fight.

Then, in the very last sentence, he says...."Oscars handspeed will always get him out of a lot of trouble".

The motherfucker blows in the wind like a Kansas Kite.

 

So U're Saying he was a FENCE RIDER???...A DONNYBROOKER???...Well, Palomino's CLEARLY Taking a STANCE on this Particular Issue...



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No, he is not. Get Reeding lessons. He says NOTHING.

 

yup....but Mosley would probably go with the usual testing for obvious reason.....Valero is needs the money, plus he can't beat any version of Pacquiao...so he will go w/ the normal testing...


Marquez will probably complain and ask for stricter testing

 

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Marquez won't do shit. Who's he going to fight for anywhere near the money or recognition if he beats Pacquiao?

 

And yes I'm aware that Marquez has mentioned it, but it's just posturing, I can almost guarantee that if it came to signing the fight he'd do it with the normal testing routine, just like he did the other 2 times he faced pacquiao, just like both he and pacquiao have done in their combined circa 100 fights.

 

Exactly. Marquez is already the sort of guy who rolls over and allows himself to be fucked, so if Manny is doping, its not like Marquez cant be bought out for an extra few thousand. He has form, in this regard.

 

Marquez went to Indonesia to give away his title for the same amount of money Floyd threw into a crowd of random club idiots. He's not going to negotiate shit.

 

JMM already said he would require the testing,.

 

I will try and dismiss this Floyd would...."Uh, Uh.....I dont need him he needs me, 1-0-1 vs him, uh...."

 

DeLa Speaks...



Oscar De La Hoya, the iconic fighter whom Manny Pacquiao sent to retirement with an upset TKO win in 2008, challenged the Filipino superstar to agree to an Olympic-style drug testing proposed in his endangered March 13 fight with Floyd Mayweather, Jr.

By refusing to subject himself to blood testing in the build-up to the superbout, Pacquiao is raising a lot of questions on his status as a dope-free fighter, noted De La Hoya, who has actually fought two fighters who tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs, Shane Mosley and Fernando Vargas.

“If Pacquiao doesn’t want to do this and risk a possible $40 million payday because he’s afraid of needles or believes he’ll be weakened by blood tests, then that raises question marks," dela Hoya wrote in his blog for The Ring .

"Now I have to wonder about him. I’m saying to myself, ‘Wow. Those Mosley punches, those Vargas punches and those Pacquiao punches all felt the same.’ I’m not saying yes or no (about whether Pacquiao might be taking performance-enhancing drugs); I’m just saying that now people have to wonder: “Why doesn’t he want to do this? Why is it such a big deal." he added.

The Mayweather camp, represented in the negotiations by De La Hoya’s company Golden Boy Promotions, has insisted on having dope tests under the US Anti-Doping Agency purportedly to protect their fighter and level the fight in the light of allegations that Pacquiao might be on to something.

But the 31-year-old Pacquiao, who has denied the allegations and came clean in all his previous dope tests conducted by the Nevada State Athletic Commission, has agreed to the blood tests but not while in the middle of training. He said it would weaken him if it’s done so close to fight night.

“If Pacquiao, the toughest guy on the planet, is afraid of needles and having a few tablespoons of blood drawn from his system, then something is wrong. The guy has tattoos everywhere; he’s tattooed from top to bottom. You’re telling me he’s afraid of needles?" the Golden Boy De La Hoya said.

Scheduled testing

Pacquiao’s promoter Bob Arum of Top Rank has stressed in a press statement that the Pacman is agreeable to submitting himself to three tests - one in January during the week the fight is formally announced; the second 30 days from the fight; and the final one immediately following the fight.

Arum also proposed the tapping of the independent agencies that work with the National Football League, the National Basketball Association or Major League Baseball, instead of the USADA, which would have the “ludicrous" right to administer random blood tests as many times as they want up to weigh-in day.

For Team Pacquiao, this could all be part of Mayweather’s mind games and possibly a ploy to get out of the projected blockbuster card.

But promoter De La Hoya quickly came to Mayweather’s defense.

“I believe Mayweather wants to do the right thing, to get tested properly. He’s not doing it to harass Pacquiao; that’s garbage. I would say to Pacquiao: ‘Do the test. Do it because it’s only a couple of tablespoons. Needles don’t hurt. Just look away when they put the needle in your arm.’ He’ll probably lose more blood in the fight than the blood being drawn for the test," he said.

“C’mon. It’s only a little bit of blood. If you have nothing to hide, then do the test," he added.

The Olympic-style dope testing is the lone item that derailed the otherwise smooth negotiations for the battle between the two pound-for-pound superstars. Pacquiao and Mayweather have apparently agreed to other major fight terms, including the purse spilt, the weight and the glove sizes




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Marquez also schooled your roided idol twice ::

 

Arum said that Malignaggi is a strong candidate for Pacquiao now. :atu:

I guess beating Juan Diaz made the difference in the world. ::

 

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=24313

Also, Arum is ALREADY Dangling the Name "Malignaggi" Out there for the March Date...But Malignaggi is ON RECORD Accusing Pac of PED's...It'll B Interesting to See if Malignaggi's Concern Can B BOUGHT....



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Like JMM's with the extra weight??:crafty:

 

Yep...


REED:hammert:

 

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Good Luck SELLING that 1...Golden Boy has Made it CLEAR that they'll Require Pac to Go Thru w/the Olympic Testing to Face ANY of their Guys...So that Throws a Mosley Fight OUT of the Window...But Hey, there's Always Devon Alexander, who Said he'd GLADLY Fight Pacquiao w/NO Testing Whatsoever!!!::

This Gets Worse & WORSE for Manny Pac Each Day...If he'd Simply AGREE w/the Testing, this would All Go Away...Instead, it's SNOWBALLING...



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And it's completely unwarranted.

Why do they want him to take these extra curricular tests? Because he's good? Because he's passed all the tests so far, tests that Mosley, a G fighter, has failed?

Why don't they request Mosley endures olympic style testing in all his bouts, above all considering he's actually a proven roid user?

 

w/Each Day, More & MORE Members of the Boxing Fraternity Speak Out AGAINST Pac, yet it's UNwarranted???....2 Former Opponents of his, 1 Former World Champion & 1 Reigning World Champion have ALREADY Said Something DOESN'T Add Up...Yet it's UNwarranted???...

WHY Do Pac Fans Continue to GLOSS OVER the Fact that Pac Could VERY EASILY Make ALL of this Go Away???....If he's TRUELY Clean, the DUMBEST Thing Pac Could Do is CONTINUE to Allow Mountains of SUSPICION to Build....

Like it or Not, he's LOSING Credibility, Mex...REED Knows U Looooooove the Little Guy, but U CANNOT Sit Here & DENY That...



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Oh I don't deny that, and I even concede the possibility that Pacquiao is using HGH.

But my stance is innocent until proven guilty, I DO like to give people the benefit of the doubt.

And I don't even see the refusal of drug tests as an "admission" of guilt.

I know we're all caught up in the scandal and drama here REED, but think about this for a second.

Pretend that after Pacman's incredible recent performances, Floyd Sr and Paulie etc didn't say anything, and the thought of steroids never really crossed your mind.

Team Floyd suddenly comes out with these demands for Pacman to undergo the most extreme drug testing ever administered to a pro fighter, for a guy that has never failed a drug test, or had any evidence AT ALL against him that he's using drugs. No video evidence, nobody has come forward and said yes I supplied Pac with HGH. Nothing. Just a hunch.

If you really think about it, it's a preposterous demand based on a hunch, without one shred of evidence against him.

And I do love Pacquiao, but I can honestly say, if this was Floyd, I would give him the benefit of the doubt too, and I would think it a preposterous demand from Team Pacquiao, seeing as Floyd has also never failed a drug test, or had any other evidence to suggest he uses PEDs.

 

Malignaggi??? Wasn't he one of the first people to talk about Pacquiao possible steroid use?....you know that loud mouth will remind Pacquiao through the building up for the fight that he is a steroid user and doesn't want to take the required test...

 

The Boxing Fraternity......:atu:

Oscar got his ass kicked by a midget, a midget he killed himself to make weight for. His training camp was a joke. He had Dundee and Beristain in. Oscar was never floored, wobbled vs Pac, his drained, old ass just got beaten up by a guy who had all the angles and all the speed.

Maybe it was bad oysters that made him feel so bad vs Manny Pac

"Snowballing"........a bunch of guys who stand to lose money because Manny wont do what they want when they want are sitting down and pushing the propaganda out.

Oscar has been full of shit before and he is full of shit now. Bad judges vs Tito, bad oysters vs Mosley......and now a bad loser over Pac.

And since the fuck when did Sean Reed hang on every word that ODLH uttered? Since it suited him that's when. How very House of you.

 

We Could PRETEND, but the REALITY is, the Notion of Pac Juicing Was ALREADY Out There, Mex...& When U Factor in the Sheer IMPROBABILITY of what Pac has Accomplished (Particularly in the Last 2 Years), even Pac's Biggest Supporters @ Least WONDERED To Themselves...

When Words like "Remarkable", "Sensational", Unprecedented", "Unbelivable" R Used to Describe An Athlete in ANY Sport, People Start to WONDER to Themselves if what They're Witnessing is Tooooo GOOD to B True...

& the BOTTOM LINE is, Manny Pac Could EASILY Make All of this VANISH...If U're REALLY Clean, TAKE the Tests...The Looooooooonger Pac Resists, the MORE Boxers will Speak out AGAINST Him...This is SNOWBALLING...



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Oscar is full of shit indeed.

See the line I bolded above.

He's such a cheeseball fuckhead it's unbelievable.

Just imagine in his gay little voice "Oh gee, wow, yeah now that I think about it, Vargas's, Mosley's and Pacquiao's punches all felt the same! It must be the steeroids!".

 

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