PACQUIAO VS MALIGNAGGI IS BEING DISCUSSED FOR MARCH 13

What's the big deal? If you're clean there's nothing to be afraid of. Olympians have to go through the same shit and they're still beating world records. Come on MWS, I know you like Pac but I also know you're usually a straight shooter.

 

when you can end up making 40+ million for that one fight.....yes is tiny request....


What is Pacquiao afraid of? ANY CLEAN fighter would just go with it...why is Pacquiao so afraid?

 

I am a straight shooter.

I love Pacquiao, but I'm not a groupie or nuthugger.

I am being honest when I say if the situation was reversed, and team Pacquiao aimed baseless accusations at Floyd, and requested olympic style drug testing, despite Floyd never failing a drug test or being linked with steroids, I would say it was an ABSURD demand, just like I'm saying this is.

And you know what, I think Floyd would refuse too, if only because he wouldn't want to be bossed around, or forced into doing something unwarranted.

I would just like to add, I have no idea if Pac is juicing or not, I admit there's a possibility, but as of now he is innocent, NOT a proven roid user, and that's why I think this demand is extreme.

 

Honestly, I disagree.

I don't think Floyd is on PEDs, but if the situation was reversed, I reckon he would refuse, for no other reason that he wouldn't want to be bitched into doing something for no reason.

 

i dont think this has anything to do with pac being afraid

it more than likely has more to do with the normal jockeying for leverage, fighters if anything are proud and they dont like being dictated too, especially when they think they are the ones who are the draw and should have the upperhand

plus floyds request is ridiculous, something unprecedented and a request that has no basis except in rumour and inuendo

if anything pac is clearly the draw out of the 2, clearly, floyd should take the fight without ridiculous demands, and if he whips pacs ass then maybe he can get have the notoriety that pac has had (though probably not because, unlike pac, floyd isnt nearly likeable, dudes a downright arrogant fucker)

 

really? I think they are equal..if anyone is a bigger draw it's Mayweather...but not by much....

 

These 2 points are what I've been getting at.

1 - I think Floyd would refuse too, if only because he would be too egotistical to be dictated to like that, not because I think he is on roids.

2 - Exactly, all this fuss is based on hunches and rumours :: If Pac was a proven roid user like Mosley for example (a G fighter) - I think team Flid would have far more right to request this. As it stands the man has never failed a drug test, OR been linked to steroids in any way - no-one has come forward and said yes they supplied Pacquiao with HGH, or saw him consuming it by the bucket loads in camp etc.

 

pac is def more mainstream and bigger draw, for sure

dude was on the cover of time magazine or some shit

 

time magazine asia edition...big deal...

 

didnt know that, still though, thats more than floyd has probably ever done (outside of wrestlemania, which surely didnt endear him to folks, he started out as the good guy and wound up being the heel)

id still guess pac is the bigger draw, at the very least they are on par with one another, and that parity demands equable terms, not ridiculous unprecedented terms as if the guy you were fighting was some schlub thats going to be just happy to get a decent payday

its a respect thing, and floyd has shown ZERO respect to pac at this point, claiming to not be impressed then claiming hes juicing

 

Great takes :bears:

 

WHY did Mayweather turned down to fight Pacquaio when they proposed to have the tests conducted by a PROFESSIONAL group, the same that tests the NBA, NFL??

Or to have the Nevada Commission conduct those random tests?

 

Yep...Floyd has DEFECATED Upon Every Square Inch of what Pac has Accomplished @ 140-147 (Some May even Question Pac @ OTHER Weights than those, but REED Won't)...@ this Point, Pac HAS to Acquiesce to the Olympic Styled Testing, just to SAVE FACE...



REED:hammert:

 

You can keep repeating it but it won't make it TRUE. I guess the JUSTICE system will decide. That's WHERE you want to have this fight anyway. Anywhere but a RING.

 

REED Loves ya to Death, Brother Mex....

"However", just the Other Day U agREED when REED Pointed Out Pac's Sudden RESURGENCE When Moving Up to 140-147...U & REED BOTH Know he was a DECLINING Fighter 2 Years Ago, @ 130...Yet he's Looked BETTER than he EVER has @ Extremely HIGHER Weights??...& Manny ISN'T Outslicking Bigger Guys to DECISION Wins, he's BOMBING Guys Out, EATING their Shots (Better than he Took Shots @ Lower Weights) & STALKING them like HE'S the "Bigger Man"...

Call it what U Want; IMPRESSIVE, SPECTACULAR, UNPRECEDENTED, STRANGE, WEIRD...Justified or Not, WHAT Manny is Doing RAISES Eyebrows AND Suspicion...& Now, when Given the PERFECT Opportunity to PROVE that he's CLEAN, Pac is ADAMANTLY REFUSING to B Randomly Tested????....

Sorry Bro, but Only the BIGGEST of Pac Fans would STILL Act as if he DOESN'T Have Something to HIDE @ This Point...CLEARLY he Does...Each Day, More & MORE People R QUESTIONING Pac...It BEHOOVES Pac to PASS Random Drug Testing @ this Point, yet he Still DECLINES it???....

Being "Bitched Out" Should B the LEAST of Pacquiao's Concerns @ this Point...



REED:hammert:

 

the voice of reason

 

It's manny who's filing suit instead of just taking the fucking tests. Manny's a cheater plain and simple.

 

YOU'RE the Guy that Spent YEARS Defending a Guy that Ended Up QUITTING TWICE & Being Hoisted on the Shoulders of his Team in CELEBRATION, the Last Time he Did it...Sorry, but YOUR Opinion ISN'T Worth SHIT around Here, Homey....

You're 100% DEVOID of Credibility @ Fightbeat...Find a Freitas Forum & SHUTthefuckUP...



REED:hammert:

 

of course, since the NBA and NFL players are clean as a whistle, those "professionals" are definetly gonna do a great job!

 

AGAIN, keeping talking like that and see where your opinion will end up. I didn't know you speak for ALL of us. Forum's PURPOSE is to debate not to tell people to STFU when their opinion doesn't suit your argument.

Don't get UPSET your boy is running...Don't get yourself into a TIZZY or else you won't be able to function properly.

 

More horseshit. :shit::shit:

What are Floyds accomplishments at 147? JMM??:atu:

Floyd has not shit on anything, except in Reeds mind.

 

Not according to Floyd...far as Floyd is concerned, it was nothing special.

Here it is...its all here.....

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"With him fighting Margarito, took a lot out of him....I dont think he is the same Miguel Cotto....he is not the same.....Manny did what he had to do, he went out there and...I dont see no versatility, I see just a good puncher, one dimensional......I dont think it was the same Miguel Cotto...."


Its all there. All there. No doubt.

 

Don't get me wrong. I'm not stupid, I fully acknowledge that Pacman's pores might be brimming with HGH.

I just think innocent until proven guilty.

If there was a bit more weight to these accusations, my opinion would be different. Not even a failed drugs test, but SOMETHING, his name linked to PEDs in some way, like many other boxers have. But nothing, just a hunch based on his incredible performances.

You're right, he did look like a declining (or bored) fighter a couple of years ago, and after moving up in weight suddenly looks like a 70's Duran esque fighting machine, better than he ever has.

But do you not acknowledge the possibility that he ISN'T doing PEDs? That this resurgence is a product of finding a weight class that suits him very well, and perhaps a renewed passion as a result?

Manny is just in a lose lose situation. He shouldn't be treated as guilty when there is not a shred of evidence against him.

And honestly the more I think about it, the more I think it's Floyd's way out of the fight. He doesn't want to fight anyone with a chance of beating him.

Let me just clarify, that DOESN'T mean I categorically think Pacman isn't juicing, it's just how I feel about Floyd's motives in this situation.

Also REED, did you see that video of Floyd talking about Pacquiao, where he doesn't mentioned roids once, and even suggests that he is not that impressed with Manny?

Seems odd to me. On the one hand to suggest the man is not doing anything remarkable, and yet the performances make such an impression on you that you think he has to be juicing, and won't fight him unless he agrees to the most extreme testing in boxing ever.

 

just a little naive and delusional

 

Not delusional. Look at the line right after that one, I do acknowledge that Manny might be juiced up to his eyeballs.

My recent posts haven't been about whether Manny is growth hormone'd up or not, they've been about floyd's intentions behind this stipulation.

 

Interviewer: "Bob Arum has said you are preoccupied about losing your undefeated status"

Floyd: "Not so....if I make $40m, I can't lose"


Interviewer "Will you fight Manny Pac"

Floyd " I am in a no-win situation"

:atu:

 

and I'm not saying Floyd doesn't cherry pick opponents. But he NEVER sabotoges negotiations to try to get out of fights. Where did you get this notion that he tries to get out of fights by destroying negotiations? Are you getting him mixed up with another fighter?

 

Manny didn't look like a killer against the guy Floyd just made look like a sparring partner.

 

I guess Manny forgot to dope that night:notallthere:

 

Floyd's a fucking joke, sad that I agree with him on this issue