PACQUIAO VS MALIGNAGGI IS BEING DISCUSSED FOR MARCH 13

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  1. Hanz

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    He sure looked like a killer against the guy whom Floyd's own dad thought he lost against in old man Oscar over 12 rounds.
     
  2. Azazel

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    yep, I don,t like either of them but I respect Pac far far more than I do Floyd. But PBF just stroke gold with the subsequent Pacquaio/Arum blunder
     
  3. Hanz

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    "No-win situation" = "I really don't want this fight!" :lol:
    If the sh*thead was all about no-win situations, then his bitch ass wouldn't have fought the likes of Hatton, Marquez, etc. Those were no-win situations if you use the motherf*cker's logic. Floyd is SCARED. It doesn't get any more simple than that. Scared sh*t of losing. And he knows he could lose!
     
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    Although I am in the bracket that feels Manny shouldn't be forced to do this unless he wants to. These were some of the best points I've read from the opposing view so far. Especially the point that Manny has tattoos yet is supposed to be scared shitless of needles. The weird excuses are kind of funny and almost enough to make me change my mind but the fact is Manny is not guilty until proven innocent. It just doesn't work that way.

    On the flip side Floyd will likely be getting matched up with the next fighter who has no hope of defeating him. Yet nobody will claim Floyd ducked his way out of top opposition again because he fooled the masses with this Olympic testing BS. Whenever someone tries to call Floyd a ducker, all the Floyd groupies will now and forever remind us how Manny was the one who didn't want the fight.
     
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    What's the best possible way to find out if there's anything in his system?...The procedure that has him cancelling this fight instantly ofcourse.

    Pacquiao "We shouldn't change the drug testing rules in boxing because it's just funny and stupid".

    :shit::shit::shit::shit::shit:
     
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    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    I agree, he's never sabotaged a negotiation before this that I know of.

    But like you acknowledge, he does pick his opponents extremely carefully.

    Floyd could have genuine intentions behind this, but I have honestly started to think he doesn't want to fight Pacquiao.

    It could be that he never really wanted to fight him, and this was a brilliant way of saving face and making Manny look bad, at the same time as NOT fighting him.

    Maybe at first he really did want to fight him, and knew the world wanted it too. Then once negotiations began and he realised he was actually going to fight the guy that slapped Cotto around the ring like a red headed stepchild, he thought fuck this, I want to retire undefeated, I can make a good few million fighting people I KNOW I can beat.

    Also Barristan tell me, I've acknowledged that Pacman could be HGH'd up to his eyeballs, do you acknowledge that he COULD actually be roid free?

    One of the things I don't like in this situation is this assumption that Pacquiao is actually guilty, despite never failing a drug test or being linked to steroids in any way.

    I swear even if it was Floyd who under the spotlight for it, I would feel the same way, innocent until proven guilty. As it stands both Pacman AND Floyd have no history of steroids, one isn't guiltier than the other.

    And "like I said before" - is Pacquiao moving up and taking Cotto's best shots etc, that different to Floyd moving up and taking Oscar's best shots at 154 after getting hurt by people like Corley?

    It goes both ways. I could present an argument that Floyd must be juicing, because who gets hurt by Corley at 140, then moves up to fight Oscar at 154 and takes his left hook without flinching. And how did Floyd look so "natural" at 154, with no excess body fat?

    You can speculate all you want, but innocent until proven guilty.

    Manny might well be taking HGH, but as far as I'm concerned, he isn't until someone actually proves it.
     
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    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    By the way lb 4 lb, I agree. Obviously you know my views on this situation, but one of the things that sometimes makes me think maybe Manny is taking PEDs, are those ridiculous excuses.

    They should just say "No, we're not going to be bullied around with bullshit like this, we'll take the same drug tests we've taken for every other fight, those required by the NSAC".

    It does make them look more suspicious, all these silly excuses.
     
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    What makes you think that Floyd knew that lil Manny would be scared of needles. Im sure Floyd looked at all of Manny's tats and the video of Manny on 24/7 getting his blood taken smiling and laughing.

    Then he thought "I know i'll make him take blood tests, hes clearly scared of needles"
     
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    All of this steroid shit aside let's for a second pretend Pacquiao-Mayweather isn't happening right now for another reason. (Floyd is injured or whatever)

    Does anybody care to see Guidinaggi vs Pac? Exactly what has he done to deserve being on a PPV card against the P4P #1 (or 2) fighter in the world?
     
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    I dont know if Paulie is a PPV fighter...at all.
     
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    I don't know if Floyd is smart enough to credit him with the idea of coming out with the drug testing condition. I think Ellerbe is the one taking care of all of that. But anyways, I think the fight will still go on as planned. Consider this: The lawsuit and the fight-is-over news has been all over ESPN, yahoo, CNN, etc. This may be a marketing move designed to create drama and pull the viewers' attention, since they have to little time to pay for a full-fledged promotion.
     
  12. Irish

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    Floyd himself did not think Mannys wins over Cotto and Hatton were all that. He felt Manny beat washed up fighters. He also thinks that Manny only made 112 or whatever, because he was 16....so he obviously thinks very little of the rise of Pacman from that weight.

    Ellerbe is the one pulling the strings......backed up by De La Hitler and Shafter.

    Follow the money. Thats the hint.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    WOW....Mayweather is a bullshitter....i'm shocked! :nono: Mayweather talks a lot of shit....he is the same guy that called Gatti a C- level club fighter..then he cries like a girl when he beats him...
     
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    Oh I see, so Floyds ignorance is now more proof of Mannys guilt? Please.

    Nobody in the Bedwetter camp thought all that much of Manny, and didn't have to fight him.

    Now they are all shocked by how impressive he is, and want tests, or the fight is off.

    :shit:
     
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    Whether Manny is hormone'd or not, you can't help but find it amusing just how much fear he has struck into the Floyd camp :kidcool:
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    what??

    Mayweather talk shit about all his opponents...he might say he doesn't think much of Pacquiao..and that it will be an easy fight. But he trains his ass off to come into the fight 100%...


    Pacquiao using steroids was just boxing gossip....but Pacquiao crying about Mayweather request for random drug testing through camp has given the gossip some fuel....
     
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    I think Floyd's pussy is extra wet at the thought of not fighting. It's weird that a guy who calls this a career is so intent on not fighting.
     
  18. Irish

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    Floyds activity level, traditionally, has not been fantastic, and his activity level as of recent is poor....he really needs to be doing everything to make this fight, not doing everything to nix it. He is trading whispers and innuendo for action, and as "bad" as Manny Pac is supposed to look, Mayweather looks no better.

    If Pac is being so unreasonable, Paul Williams is out there, waiting.
     

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