Mayweather backs down from USADA demand

We have as much proof as anyone should need. One guy was willing to risk a $40 million dollar payday to avoid taking a few blood tests. That is worth more to me than some dipshit testifying that he supplied PED's to Pacquiao.

The 'court of law' angle that some have latched onto is incredibly misguided. "Proving" something in court doesn't really mean jack shit. OTOH, voluntarily giving up $40 million for a few blood tests means everything.

 

Nuttin' LOK.

Just looked like General Discussion was taken over by Petre for a few days there.

I was waiting for the Zapruder film of Manny shooting himself up with horse tranquilizer to surface.

This shit will sort itself out and we can all move on.

 

Floyd dies! His bitch ass is getting raped! :hump:

 

So...what was the purpose of the Ellerbee/De La Hitler/Shafter request?

Make the request? Then back down?

Your opinions...on a postcard....to Fightbeat.com

 

Not really, Pac has all the money he needs. And, he doesn't need shoes or other basic necessities.

 

Yeah. You're right. Pacquiao doesn't need $40 million. Who does? Those gosh damn freaking blood tests. Oh so ridiculous. Pacquiao was going to be an Olympian, but the ridiculous testing got in the way.

 

Why the fuck should Manny automatically agree to a demand that has not been made of any other boxer in history?

You assholes didn't even give this issue a day or two to get resolved.

Because there's $40 mill on the line?

Floyd Mayweather - "I'm willing to get fucked in the ass by Michael Clarke Duncan before the fight. If Manny really wants to make this fight happen, he'll get fucked in the ass by Michael Clarke Duncan to. If he refuses that just proves what a faggot Manny really is. I don't think he wants this fight."

Manny - "Well, I don't know. That seems a little out of the ordinary. I'll have to think a bit on that."

mikE - "Manny's a faggot"

 

You analogy fails. What is bolded does not.

There was an easy way for Pacquiao to take the high ground, basically put to death any unsubstantiated PED rumors, and make $40 million. Instead, he fought testing that every olympian goes through for basically no money, he made a tacit admission of PED use, and he risked blowing $40 million.

It didn't need a day or two or three to get resolved, it needed 30 minutes. Now everybody's hero looks like a freaking idiot juicer instead of an all time great.

 

Well, I guess everybody has a price to get fucked in the ass by Michael Clarke Duncan. We just found out yours.

ray:

 

:: WTF are you on about? Manny Pacquiao was and still is the best thing going in boxing today! He's the last remaining action-packed superstar left in the sport. Deal with it. Nobody save a few hardcore Floyd dicksuckers give a f*ck about Gayweather Jr. When he left for 2 years, nobody even opened a thread on this board about his boring shoulder-rolling bitch ass!

 

Absolutely ridiculous analogy. Your way too emotional on this one bro. Boxing is one of the vestiges of capitalism around and fighters camps/promoters negotiate terms of fights. In this current atmosphere in the sporting world of doping and with team Mayweathers suspicions they have every right to request random testing for both fighters. The same testing that is done in so many other sports....and of course Manny has the right to decline and look like a juice head which he has and which he clearly is.

 

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If I was Pacquiao and I was clean I would still turn down the tests.

 

But Hanz, whatever Pacq is or isn't for boxing, it doesn't mean he has to be given the benefit of every ridiculous doubt. We've watched Pacq do unprecedented things in the sport...we've watched him anihilate world class athletes with wicked speed and wicked stamina and with bodyfat nowhere to be seen. And people wanted to believe it was on the up and up. So they did. Just like they did for Sean Sherk. And A Rod. And McGwire. And Clemens.

But fuck those guys. This is Manny Pacquiao. Our hero. He's too nice to do steroids and other PED's. And maybe he is afraid of needles. Maybe this was such a ridiculous demand. Maybe he really is afraid that it will hurt his performance. Maybe only giving blood at scheduled times is enough to prove his innocence. Maybe risking a $40 million paycheck makes sense.

After all, this is Floyd against Manny. Integrity of thought isn't important. Go Pacq!

 

Get the f*ck outta here! Go prove this sh*t first before you make accusations. The fact is, fights are won in the ring. And that's where Pacquaio shines. Floyd on the other hand wants to f*ck around and make fights with smaller guys and have them come up to meet him at catch weights. He already ducked Mosley, Margarito, Wright, etc and again is ducking another fighter who could knock his jaw into the 6th row. Floyd is the cowardly cunt here. And he could retire from boxing today and still nobody would give a sh*t. If Pacquaio retired today, there would be a huge void in the sport. We all know who the real superstar in the sport is and it's Pacquiao. The last remaining action-packed superstar who even remotely resembles exactly what real boxing is all about. Not that chicken-shit back-foot shoulder rolling bitch fest from Fairyweather Jr.

 

Get off it mikE. The bottom line here is that Floyd is scared of the fight. He saw what this guy has done to common opponents whom Floyd has beaten in the past and he knows that this could be 12 rounds of raging fury which he really wants no part of. Guys were scared of Mike Tyson in his prime for the same reason. Who wanted to deal with that hellacious fury? Floyd is pretty smart when it comes to match-making. He knows who the right opponents are for him.::

 

But I don't really give a damn if Floyd is afraid of Pacquiao or not. His demand is perfectly reasonable no matter what his motives are. Floyd was willing to go through the exact same testing. The exact same testing thousands of other athletes have to go through with far less at stake.

To mE, this isn't about Floyd vs Pacquiao, this is about boxing vs cheaters. I can only assume you would find this to be a perfectly reasonable request if it had been Pacquiao making the request of Floyd. And you know what? We would be in agreement.

 

Would you make a fist full of bullshit excuses too? Nah if you were Pac and you were DIRTY you would turn down the tests ::

 

Do you think I even read your rambling nonsense?

 

uhhh no, its probably for the biggest purse in boxing history...and Manny is suddenly not afraid of needles anymore. Oh wait he's only afraid of them 30 days before the fight ::

 

the right opponents for mayweather jr are the ones who made him the most money. they just happened to be the same opponents pacquiao made the most money against.

 

Perhaps you fellas missed this part:

"As long as there's a blood test, as long as there's a urine test and as long as it's random, a [specified] cutoff date is agreeable to us," Mayweather promoter Richard Schaefer said. "We're saying, 'We're OK,' and we hope Pacquiao [and his promoter and trainer] are OK."

This seems more than fair and like I said, the ball is no Manny's court to see if he is willing to work things out and make it happen or if he'll take things to a breaking point.

MAKE THE FIGHT HAPPEN MANNY.

 

How is Floyd trying to get out of the fight. Floyd wanted drugs testing to make sure that Manny isn't cheating. Manny said no. Now Floyd has backed off the demands. One fighter is desperate for the fight and that fighter is Mayweather.

 

The only threads you have been posting in for the past 2 years are Mayweather threads.

 

the damage has already been done

PEDquaio's piece of shit cheating legacy has been exposed...he's on some top secret Phillipino drugs that only random testing would have exposed

 

Schaefer believes that Arum's position of leaving it up to the commission is him "moving the goal post."
"The pressure is on Pacquiao," he said. "They keep moving the goal post like they did with the $10 million weight penalty [if either fighter is over the contract maximum 147 pounds], which we agreed to. They didn't think we would accept that. When we did, they had to find something else to make into a problem. So now they're saying it's up to the commission instead of wanting to negotiate the drug testing with us. I don't want to hear that if the fight breaks up it was because of us. When they came to us with a $10 million weight penalty, they didn't expect us to say yes. They thought we'd say no. So when we said yes, they had to come up with something else. Now we're off USADA, and they are going to come and say only urine testing if that's what the commission says. It's really frustrating.
"We are making compromises. It's a two-way street. If they back off again, I will shut off my phone and spend the rest of the Christmas and New Year's time with my family, and good luck to all of these fools."
While Arum is making plans for an alternative fight for Pacquiao against former junior welterweight titlist Paulie Malignaggi -- who has also accused Pacquiao of using PEDs -- if the Mayweather fight falls apart, Schaefer said he hasn't discussed an alternative with Mayweather.
"We haven't discussed anybody else because the fight we want to bring to the fight fans is the one with Pacquiao," he said. "The focus is on getting Mayweather-Pacquiao done while Bob is making calls everywhere on the Malignaggi fight. That shows his focus is not on Mayweather.
"How ridiculous is that that Pacquiao would go and fight the guy who makes accusations that he uses performance-enhancing drugs instead of Mayweather [Jr.], who didn't make those accusations? Something is not right. I don't know how to explain it other than maybe Pacquiao doesn't want the Mayweather fight."

Pac would rather try and win a lawsuit which he has no chance at winning than fight Mayweather. Make that rather fight Paulie Malignaggi who has stated that Manny P is on the Juice. Manny Pussyquiao way to go.

 

ElTerrible, Barristan, REED...help me out here. Are the FB posters just Floyd haters (not a bad thing)? Pacquiao lovers? Because, after scouring through a few pages, I find it hard to believe they're this muthaf*cking stupid.

 

Solid Mike, good posting, agree completely.