Pacquiao To File Lawsuit Against the Mayweather Camp

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  1. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    He needs him to make 40 millions in one night, though.

    Otoh, Floyd has already completely destroyed Pacquiao's credibility by accident.

    I mean really, who would have predicted that this request would have been objected to in advance? $40 million or no random testing. Take your pick, Manny.
     
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    The testing isn't the issue for me. It is who is demanding it. If Nevada said, look we see some things and we want to go to olympic testing and Pac said no, I would agree with you guys. Floyd has no right to demand extra anything. It is who is making the demand. Why don't you knuckleheads understand that. It is like being in jail and having a guy ask for your milk. Even if you are lactose intolerant and don't want itand you hand it over, you are a bitch and you lost. THIS IS NEGOTIATION. It has nothing to do with the demand.
     
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    Yeah and the way Freeike is shrilly trying to come up with anything possible to deflect away from what any clear thinking individual could see is fascinating. It's almost like watching the nature channel the way these monkeys are scrambling about foraging for excuses and justifications for their hero :lol:
     
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    What do have to say about my opinion on the issue. It isn't the testing. It is who is demanding it. How can you possibly argue Pac isn't getting punked by agreeing to something that has never, ever been required. Hagler lost to Ray Leonard at the table before the fight. Pac is at worst the equal to Mayweather in terms of being a star, at worst. So where does this imaginary authority come from?
     
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    There is nothing in the framework that precludes fighters from agreeing to more stringent testing, just like there is nothing in the framework that precludes them from having gloves weighed independently. This isn't infringing on the existing framework; rather, it is supplementing it. Like how Pacquiao is apparently supplementing his natural training.
     
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    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Why do you need to watch tv. You could point the camera at your family and see monkeys run around for free.You do't understand because you are a punk. I mean that in the sense like a bitch or a catcher. You are a guy who went on a message board complaining his wife won't fuck him. What the fuck do you know about standing up for what's yours. Your wife punks you ever fucking day.Of course you don't understand.If some fatass tells me to move from the sidewalk. I will tell him to fuck himself. If a cop does, I move.

    Floyd=fatass on the corner(no authority, no right to make demands)
    Nevada=cop (authority, has the right to make demands)

    Get it(I mean, my point, we know you don't get it as in pussy. )
     
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    There is nothing to oblige Pacquiao to have the test. There was something to oblige Hazard to weigh the gloves.
     
  9. mikE

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    Pacquiao isn't getting punked because he gets exactly the same thing out of the demand as Floyd...an increased chance that his opponent is not cheating. There's no punk going on here.

    That your problem is only about who is demanding it just shows that you are being irrational. Attacking the proponent of an argument (or proposal) is a logical fallacy.
     
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    You are an idiot searching hopelessly to justify your bias. I thought your going reason was that this is an UNPRECEDENTED demand that should by no means be adhered to! Well if your changing up your argument (big surprise :lol:) and now its all about negotiations then....

    Manny DEMANDED 8oz gloves....Floyd gave him his milk

    Manny DEMANDED 10 million....Floyd gave him his milk

    Manny DEMANDED 147 lbs and no more.....Floyd gave him his milk

    Floyd DEMANDED random tests....Pac throws his milk on the floor so no one gets it and goes running like a bitch to the prison guard screaming for help :lol:
     
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    And what was that?
     
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    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    No, it isn't. Floyd is not the Nevada commission. Floyd is a fighter. He is supposed to fight not make policy decisions.That wasn't an Ad Hominum attack. If some guy in a 68 Beetle pulled you over for speeding and wrote you a ticket on a post it note, you think that it isn't logical to say he has no authority to make you pay it. Notice, the issue isn't whether you were speeding that is not the point. You missed my entire point.
     
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    The pre-existing glove stipulation. Once you agree on glove weight, you are entitled to have it checked out, otherwise there is no point in having the agreement. Same way as fighters who agree on a weight go and weigh in all the same.:lol:
     
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    All of those other things have literally 1,000's of precedents. Your point is meaningless. Or are you arguing that no one has ever asked for a certain glove size, a certain weight limit and penalties for not making the weight. Are you really thinking that is a valid point. You are dumber than I thought and I picture you as Corky from "Life goes on."
     
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    :laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::lol:

    Thats just it.

    But Oscar and Floyd figure, "fuck it, we run the show"

    And it gets their goat that some little ricer is telling them to go fuck themselves.
     
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    Once again, you fail to understand basic shit. All of those things that Manny DEMANDED are contractual. Its the shit that is negotiated between boxers. A fucking random blood test has fuck all to do with a contract and Floyd has no right to try and regulate something that the NSAC does.
     
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    You believe a fighter should not be able to require his opponent to do something that falls within the purview of something that already has oversight.

    While I may agree with regard to a different issue...let's say that the fighters tried to negotiate who would ref the fight or score it...I completely disagree with regard to the issue in question. What is the #1 maxim of the sport? Protect yourself at all times. That's all that Floyd is doing here.
     
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    There is a governing body for the nations roads you moron so of course only the enforcers of the governing body (the police) have authority. Boxing is contractual between two entities. The sporting commission is for licensing and supervision of promoters, and managers. Terms are struck between boxing parties hence the contracts. Did you drop out of high school? You sound like a pothead.
     
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    This is simply wrong. It does now.
     
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    Have the rules changes and make it official. There are already set rules in place. IF they arent good enough go through the proper channels and change them. if that is done, i have no fucking problem with Manny doing it. And if he refuses to, he is a grade A bitch. But until then, Floyd has no authority to do shit. Motherfucker should walk around with a badge from now on. Officer Money?
     
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    Well he can protect himself all the way to a Repo, then.
     
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    we'll see
     
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    The fact that no sanctioning body or boxing commission has voiced opposition to Floyd's request should indicate to you that the request is not objectionable to them. You really think we wouldn't have heard from them by now if they had a problem with it?
     
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    Oh, and since when did the sanctioning bodies or commissions become such fucking bastions of moral integrity? The night they allowed Gatti to nearly kill Gamache? The night they allowed Cortez to break Hatton/Mayweather at the slightest hint of holding? The night they allowed the same Cortez to allow Hopkins foul and hold and play all night vs Joe Calzaghe? The night they had Eugenia Williams scoring rounds for Holyfield? Be real:shit:
     
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    You have obviously NEVER written or worked on a contract. Clearly you're a high school dropout who knows fuck all about negotiations and the roles different entities play in them. A contract can include ANY reasonable demands. Is random testing reasonable? Of course it is.
     
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    hahaha...changed your argument back to precedence now? I though Manny shouldn't do it because Mayweather DEMANDED it. :lol::lol::lol: I keep shredding your arguments and you keep pivoting back and forth like a little sissy. Pathetic.
     
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    Random blood test is Reasonable in a boxing contract? Proof its been done before!
     
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    Why would we hear from them? We are just talking here right?
     

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